Anti wet sump valve

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The ball valve/ignition cut out taps are cheap and foolproof. There are some made now that are compact and very neat looking, not really noticeable.
Beyond that, you should only need to bother using them if the bike is going out of service for quite awhile.
So if wetsumping is a problem for you, there is a cure ( other than riding on ice and snow!)

As far as worrying about the switch not working in the event you forget to turn the valve on, have you ever witnessed someone successfully starting any engine with the ignition turned off?
I've inadvertently tried and watched others try over the years with a variety of machines, no one has had any luck so far. You always end up having to turn the ignition switch on to get her going.

On the other hand, two of my mates died in motorcycle accidents, both tangled with cars. Another is in a wheelchair for life after a solo motorcycle accident.
It seems that with motorcycle use, the odds of a life ending or life altering accident are a lot greater than that of an ignition cut-out switch failing to perform its duty.

Glen
 
I read in Canada Moto guide , one in four riders dies or is seriously injured while riding during course of their ride life … no mention of the non-riding group , we all have a one way ticket here , I rarely dwell on the risks , it just so good for me to be out on a bike ….. and I did use a CNW one way valve , checked each year , never an issue and kept oil where it belonged , other than priming oil pump at the start of season , mostly forgot it there , always first start of day seat off checking oil return though , easy to do ….
 
Craig said:
I read in Canada Moto guide , one in four riders dies or is seriously injured while riding during course of their ride life
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I don’t know how they define serious injury in Canada, but here in the U.K. it’s something like “received medical attention.”

So most “serious injury” is actually trivial.
 
Triton Thrasher said:
I don’t know how they define serious injury in Canada, but here in the U.K. it’s something like “received medical attention.”

So most “serious injury” is actually trivial.
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I like how racers talk about severity of injury… “yeah, broke my arm and collar bone and sprained both ankles, nothing serious”
 
I recently improved my crank case vent system. Drilled a 1/2'' hole in the large case plug/oil return strainer plug and brazed in a 90* pipe through the strainer and toward the back. ( Marked the rear of the plug before removing it ) Mounted the Mikes XS reed valve two inches away between the engine and trans and blocked off the timing case vent, works great to empty the case quickly. I do have a manual oil cut off but only use it if the bike is going to sit for over a week.
 
My most serious injury here in NS was , broken right arm just below shoulder , broken ribs on same side along with fractured skull , hospital for a week , then plaster from waist to neck with bent iron imbedded in plaster to hold arm in correct position , that lasted 2 wks , took that long to get ride to beach , where I waded up to my neck and melted that wretched thing off , replacement was much more sporting …. Haha!
 
This still going so easy really if you want to shut off your oil line to stop WS then put a device on your oil line, if you are like me no way , its so simple really its up to each person to do what suites them, this subject has been on going for years on and off and we all have our own opinions on the matter as been said some Norton's WS more than others in less time, if it wasn't raining so hard and its been like this for 4 days now I be out riding, bloody wet season., but my Norton don't sit long enough to WS.

Ashley
 
vidar hjelm johansen said:
Hi
I am considering installing an Anti wet sump valve from Holland Norton Work.
It looks like an elegant and good solution to a major or minor problem.
But for me to do that, I have to trust it 110%. Will the engine, for example, then be able to suck in the oil if the system has been emptied (filled with air) and establish oil pressure quickly enough.

How smart is this, has some of you out there experience with this valve ?

Vidar
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Sorry but I came in late on this post Vidar but I was the one who raised this heated discussion a good while ago when I bought one, now this has no disrespect to Constant who has faith in his product.
I never did fit it and still have it lying around and felt there are other problems which can inflict damage eg. a pump which does not bring the pressure quickly enough or high enough, the fact that most of our Nortons are not used as daily plods plays also a role. With wet sumping I have learned to live with and this winter have a completely overhauled engine with a new oil pump to mount in the frame but will still not mount the
valve. The best option is use AN's sump plug with the small internal magnetic bolt, that is if you have the large plug fitted.
One other thing there is no 110% solution to anything especially Norton.
 
Woody850 said:
Sorry but I came in late on this post Vidar but I was the one who raised this heated discussion a good while ago when I bought one, now this has no disrespect to Constant who has faith in his product.
I never did fit it and still have it lying around and felt there are other problems which can inflict damage eg. a pump which does not bring the pressure quickly enough or high enough, the fact that most of our Nortons are not used as daily plods plays also a role. With wet sumping I have learned to live with and this winter have a completely overhauled engine with a new oil pump to mount in the frame but will still not mount the
valve. The best option is use AN's sump plug with the small internal magnetic bolt, that is if you have the large plug fitted.
One other thing there is no 110% solution to anything especially Norton.
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This I forgot to mention, for my rebuild I sourced a very smart oil pressure gauge from Classic British Spares in the USA. Price is measurable to the use factor, before making life harder for the engine to stay alive give it a better chance to keep giving us the fun we love so much.
 
Woody850 said:
Price is measurable to the use factor, before making life harder for the engine to stay alive give it a better chance to keep giving us the fun we love so much.
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That last sentence has got me - read it a few times and still don't know what you mean.
Could you say it in another way?
Cheers
 
robs ss said:
That last sentence has got me - read it a few times and still don't know what you mean.
Could you say it in another way?
Cheers
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Sorry if I spoke in a riddle (rather commen with me o_O). This gauge is a reasonably affordable piece of hardware which many Norton riders will appreciate should a loss of oil pressure occur, even a stuck oil valve. I heeded the warning given in the forum which I never regrettedand now on my newly built engine I have a direct feed from the pump to the camshaft.
 

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Triton Thrasher said:
I don’t know how they define serious injury in Canada, but here in the U.K. it’s something like “received medical attention.”

So most “serious injury” is actually trivial.
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Depends on the level of govt, federal provincial would consider ambulance call for a sprain "serious". Municipal government only looks at transported to hospital as serious
 
In the US bikes do .6% of all vehicle miles and are responsible for 14% of all traffic fatalities. I would call that serious injury potential.
That's from the National Safety Council.

I'll still give odds to the ignition switch working vs other much greater concerns.

Glen
 
worntorn said:
In the US bikes do .6% of all vehicle miles and are responsible for 14% of all traffic fatalities. I would call that serious injury potential.
That's from the National Safety Council.

I'll still give odds to the ignition switch working vs other much greater concerns.

Glen
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I have to Glen, in my younger days once the ignition switch worked and steam was up I just took aim and fired.
Incredible that I am still here, what went on down below left at the first lamp post.
John
 
worntorn said:
"Very few of our members cross the floor, and I suggest even fewer do it because they are persuaded by the arguments of others"

The OP did just that. Was planning to install a valve, asked for info, weighed that and did a 180.
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1 and counting ;)
 
Of course, if we all took everybody else's advice we'd eventually end up riding identical motorcycles!!

Vive la difference, I say :-)
 
SteveA said:
1 and counting ;)
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2 from this thread so far. See post #81.
There are also all kinds of folks who read and gather info but don't post.
I get your point about the repetition, but that seems to be motorcycle forums. Everyone has their go to area of discussion.
Some of the racing stuff is also quite repetitious, but not to those discussing it, as near as I can tell.
If we ever get another racetrack going here, I would likely join in the repetition on that subject!



Glen
 
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