Wow. Where do I start?

richard-7 said:

I'm looking forward to the re-map on this Saturday. But I never would have thought my bike needed a re-map. My bike stalls only once at every start when it's cold, other than that, the bike runs and sounds fantastic. The dealer said it's like night and day so I'll let you know.

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Richard-7

Please update in a new thread your experience with remapping. The 961 owners in England have had great things to say about their remap experience.

I am adding a new exhaust next week, but it may be some time before I can get a remap done. I looking forward to hearing how your remap goes

when my 961 went in for it's 500 mile first service at Donington some 18 months ago I had them fit the long loud peashooter exhausts at the same time. The bike was serviced and remapped but the new exhausts were delayed, I waited 2 weeks but still no show. Norton's salesman at the time (Andy Jeans) asked service if they could send my bike back with the standard cans and the 'loud can remap' in the ECU and then send me the loud cans when they arrived to save losing more summertime on the bike. Service said NO as the bike would 'run like shit' on the wrong mapping.
Think you guy's are in for a nice surprise when you get the correct maps for your exhausts

Der, you might want to get in touch with Touche, theres a new map out for your spec, no 077.

Its a deeply religious experience, lol.

But seriously, Ive now had 2, stage 1 and 2 on the long peashooters. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the bike after the stage 1, as it went like hot snot and sounded like an angry spitfire. It just pinked a bit at high revs. The stage 2 got rid of all the pinking and it feels like it has more power throughout the rev range, definitely sounds different at tickover too. Fuel economy is now at 42mpg, from 50mpg after stage 1 and 58mpg at new, so more fuel is going into it, or Im wringing its neck more often, which is the way it likes to be ridden. The remap is stupidly simple too. It took longer to get the seat off than it did to remap it.

98 octane fuel makes a difference too. Im not going to use 95 unleaded any more, as we now have E10 in UK, the dreaded 10% ethanol in our 95 unleaded. I think 98 doesn't have it yet, and as most of our garage forecourt attendants couldn't spell ethanol ill play safe and assume its in all unleaded 95. The 961 definitely prefers 98.

Pic of my 961 next to mates immaculate Triumph Speed Triple, it should be immaculate, its had 3 engines....

Whoa....G81...thanks for the props, Buddy, but you're giving me a little too much credit. Passing the info on the mapping devices was my pleasure, but I can't say it was any of my prodding that got the Norton reps to send it out. I'd thank them for that one. I may have just got the info a little earlier thanks to the manager that is going beyond his call of duty to help. Unfortunately, the bottom of the chain of command didn't fight for their customers. I had to complain and moan on my own, which isn't a pleasant experience. What I do have positive to say about Norton is, the manager was just doing a follow up email to me for what he thought was a simple oil leak. It was then I got to vent and he stepped up to the plate. Had he not extended the courtesy of a follow up email, I'd still be totally in the dark. The jobs not done and my gearcase is not in the US yet but at least I have an update and know that something is getting done. Time is not the primary issue. Communication is. Thanks for the positive comments though. Good luck with your bike and remap. Negative experiences aside, I still couldn't think of a cooler bike for me.

Wow. Just saw something...Dozer...you guys have 98 octane leaded gas? That just aint fair, man. My old Bonnie would love that stuff. I put some unleaded octane boost in and on the third tank, its spittin' and poppin' like a cranky mule. I have been kind of beating on it so I may have thrown a valve out. Just another headache I have to look into. That's why I want the Norton back so bad. I've vowed not to ride my little museum piece to hard, but couldn't resist running wide open on occasion. sigh. :|

Britfan, I wish.... Unleaded only over here. 95 and 98 are both unleaded.

You can buy 'supplements', but Im not sure whats in them, but Im pretty sure it isn't lead. The only place youll find much lead over here is in the back of a metal thieves van....

I've recently learned of a local place that sells high octane leaded gas for track hot rods, but will sell to the public with a gas can. About double the price of normal gas, but that's about what you poor guys across the pond are paying at the pump. I'll investigate and get back to you.

I think we can buy from tracks etc, but its not a common thing. There is a huge classic vehicle following over here and they must get from somewhere...

Dozer said:

I think we can buy from tracks etc, but its not a common thing. There is a huge classic vehicle following over here and they must get from somewhere...

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I have always used super unleaded in my 961 and BP if possible as it is claimed not to contain ethanol(in my area anyway). There is still one station around here which has Leaded 4 star but it's about £2 per litre. I'm very close to Silverstone circuit so I can get race fuel but I don't think that would make much difference in the 961.

G81 Can Cycle said:

I just got off the phone with Matt Capri at South Bay. He confirmed that his software and remap files were on their way.

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Are they sending the floppy disks by boat, or airplane?

How absurd.

Britfan60 said:

Just saw something...Dozer...you guys have 98 octane leaded gas?

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But, remember our (unleaded) fuel is 98 RON octane, which is approximately equal to US 93 AKI octane.

DBono, i am entitled to my opinion and from talking with owners of the bikes that are out there now. you haven’t delt w Matt Capri so your opinion is yours, not mine or others who have done business w with him... his rep in the BMW world is quite low. more or less regarded as a snake oil salesman. Knows his triumph stuff. big bore kits for them . and for those interested, he already has a big Bore kit for the norton. should you want to part with more of your money....

Huskyfrk, my comment was aimed at your comment below:

"imagine that you had a bike that ran like crap. so you put up with the problem for 3 months.. lovely.."

That comment could not be more wrong and sounded like more Norton bashing from the peanut gallery of non-Norton owning snipers.

The post which I replied to and copied said nothing about Matt Capri, so I don't understand your response. I am aware of Matt Capri's checkered past.

Must say this world of internet forums is new to me and the only reason I've been active here is that there was a desire to hear more from actual new Norton owners. So, I posted to share my positive experiences with the bike, which remains my #1 preferred ride among a stable of other bikes that I absolutely love. I understand that some have had negative experiences, but what should be noted is that they generally still like the bike, even after problems arose. The vast majority of owners' experience has been strongly positive, and that is not reflected on this forum.

Dbono, youll find that all of Huskyfrk's posts are negative.

For the record, I still love my Norton 961 Sport. Not thrilled with the way things have been handled with the warranty work, but I love the bike. I could have tossed in the towel 6 weeks ago, but I'm waiting it out so far. Things are looking a little brighter.

DBono said:

The vast majority of owners' experience has been strongly positive, and that is not reflected on this forum.

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Bono you can say that again !

Britfan60 said:

For the record, I still love my Norton 961 Sport. Not thrilled with the way things have been handled with the warranty work, but I love the bike. I could have tossed in the towel 6 weeks ago, but I'm waiting it out so far. Things are looking a little brighter.

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Britfan,

Glad to hear that.
I feel the same way about my 961. Quirks, and all, I'm glad I bought one.

As I said earlier, Ive got 3 other bikes in the garage, but since Sept 1st, the only bike Ive ridden, almost exclusively, is my 961. Love it to bits.

Not much to tell here. Probably because I haven't been told much. It's really not the time (since the season is pretty much over) its the lack of communication.

Brit fan
Has no progress been made with your warranty repairs on your 961?

J