New laws in Australia gone mad

See if this don't apply everywhere. Few pages of US criminalizing everything. Its an old scandal on US having highest number of people jailed or in prison, except for the very biggest crooks of course.

http://www.militianews.com/criminalizing-america/

Reality...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison ... of-slavery

Well we made out on our Sunday ride without being pulled over, lots of Harleys out and about as well as other bikes, I think the police are getting sick of wasting their time pulling bikes over to ask what outlaw club they belong too, great day out but getting hot and got caught in a thunder storm coming home and not many cops around, so maybe starting to settle down.

Ashley

ashman said:

Well we made out on our Sunday ride without being pulled over, lots of Harleys out and about as well as other bikes, I think the police are getting sick of wasting their time pulling bikes over to ask what outlaw club they belong too, great day out but getting hot and got caught in a thunder storm coming home and not many cops around, so maybe starting to settle down.

Ashley

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I've got past the bureaucracy and have approval to get my Norton race bike roadworthy . It's a slow haul but I'll be up for a ride in the next few months

pommie john said:

ashman said:

Well we made out on our Sunday ride without being pulled over, lots of Harleys out and about as well as other bikes, I think the police are getting sick of wasting their time pulling bikes over to ask what outlaw club they belong too, great day out but getting hot and got caught in a thunder storm coming home and not many cops around, so maybe starting to settle down.

Ashley

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I've got past the bureaucracy and have approval to get my Norton race bike roadworthy . It's a slow haul but I'll be up for a ride in the next few months

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How so john? I'd be keen to hear your thoughts and experience. Perhaps a thread? I spoke to some engineers and roadworthy guys and abandoned plans to get a race framed(fbed) commando registered.

Dkt26 said:

pommie john said:

ashman said:

Well we made out on our Sunday ride without being pulled over, lots of Harleys out and about as well as other bikes, I think the police are getting sick of wasting their time pulling bikes over to ask what outlaw club they belong too, great day out but getting hot and got caught in a thunder storm coming home and not many cops around, so maybe starting to settle down.

Ashley

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I've got past the bureaucracy and have approval to get my Norton race bike roadworthy . It's a slow haul but I'll be up for a ride in the next few months

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How so john? I'd be keen to hear your thoughts and experience. Perhaps a thread? I spoke to some engineers and roadworthy guys and abandoned plans to get a race framed(fbed) commando registered.

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I had hassles with the fact that I imported the bike as a race bike and using on the road contravened the import approval conditions. I had to get Canberra to give a kind of relaxation of the import approval and now Qld transport have given to OK to register it so long as I can get a safety certificate.
I'm currently building a wiring loom, fitting lights, mudguards silencers etc and have spoken to a couple of safety certificate guys who reckon it should be straightforward to get a certificate.

I plan to put it on the trailer and take it to one of them soon so they can cast their eyes over the progress and give me some pointers as to how I'm going.


The one thing I'm not sure about is I've bought a tiny GPS digital speedo and I can't find out if it's legal.

As long as you got a speedo that works it should be fine, when I built my 850 Featherbed Norton it was straight forward to rego it, be great to see another featherbed Norton on the road and let me know we will arrange that ride and hope fully we won't be branded as outlaw bikies :lol:

Ashley

ashman said:

As long as you got a speedo that works it should be fine, when I built my 850 Featherbed Norton it was straight forward to rego it, be great to see another featherbed Norton on the road and let me know we will arrange that ride and hope fully we won't be branded as outlaw bikies :lol:

Ashley

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They'll have to catch us first

It is like being a clock-watcher at work. The correct local time, is the correct local time. It is your responsibility to obey the law and not exceed the speed limit , how you do it is your business. You can try to use speedo error to fight a speeding fine - you won't win that one. In Victoria, one Premier even passed a law that you could not fight a ticket on the basis of the calibration error of a speed camera - that is a different matter. I'd try to never ride a motorcycle on Australian roads, I need my licence too much. Our modern cars are fitted w ith cruise control. On out main highway I set it 10% over the speed limit to accommodate my speedo reading slow, and I've checked it by the display at the ends on the freeways which are fairly reliable. Recently those displays were removed so you now cannot check your speedo that way. Before I had cruise control, I was always getting booked by the idiots who use to hide in the bushes in the median strip with the speed camera. The popular police slogan is 'speed kills' - no mention of driver competence, and it is irrelevant anyway. Kangaroos are difficult to miss at any speed, even when they are lying dead in the middle of the road - we sometimes have plagues of them - particularly dangerous around dusk and dawn. I've seem them belting across paddocks in their attempts to commit suicide by jumping in front of my car. The joke is that most of the city slickers who drive in the country are blissfully unaware of the risk. You can drive slow and die of boredom, or fast and die of having the shit kicked out of you from a kangaroo through the windscreen.

In Europe I used to love riding at night. Since coming to 'straya in 1980 I have avoided long trips at night, because of the kangaroos. Maybe I was traumatised into this by coming across a collision between a car and a 'roo where the car driver and the 'roo were both dead and decapitated. It seems that dawn/dusk are the worst times.
wakeup

ashman said:

Well we made out on our Sunday ride without being pulled over, lots of Harleys out and about as well as other bikes, I think the police are getting sick of wasting their time pulling bikes over to ask what outlaw club they belong too, great day out but getting hot and got caught in a thunder storm coming home and not many cops around, so maybe starting to settle down.

Ashley

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That's good to know Ashley, Once the cops know the law is not enforceable they will be less inclined to waste their time trying to.
sam

I was working with a middle aged Harley rider in Benalla who came from Euroa which is about 20 miles away. He told me about a kid in his town who had a 1000cc Japanese sports bike which he always used fo fang very hard up around and over 100mph. He told the kid he should ease off because of the kangaroos, but to no avail. The kid did actually hit one and received two broken legs - he no longer rides motorcycles. If there is not a drought you don't see many, however they are always there waiting to jump out in front of you. They have charming habits - they bound along the side of the road just in front of you then do a sharp turn and have the collision. I don't like the dead ones which lie on the road. If you come around even a slight bend you are often on them before you can avoid. The car will ride up and over them doing all sorts of good things to the underside.

Sam, If you get pulled over by the Australian police simply have a quiet chat with them without getting smart. In Australia they will often let you go without a ticket unless they are police women - then don't waste your time even trying to sway them. They always do their job 100% - just cop it sweet.

Bloody 'roo's have about identical behavior and size as the dam deer so just a matter of time before one collides we you and there is no defense against them but going slow lowers the damage levels - if ya can't fit road train level of crash bars. Good decision not to ride near dark but animals out at any time so not riding best choice to avoid police too.
The only thing that can be said for reason to ride a real motorcycle is same things as for reasons of doing hard drugs, messing with married women and stealing big ticket items. So now ya know how I feel about myself and all of you plus the Gov't point of view too.

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Sam, If you get pulled over by the Australian police

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You haven't ridden a motorcycle in HOW many decades, and are giving 'advice' on dealing with the police ???

Side stepping bigger meaner pictures and ironic political correctness, think of the resources saved if just finished the job, dam it. Read how THE STATE saved it but won't let people control the over populations. A globalist point of view is people rate less than animals - after the globalists have ruined the environment by monopolies forced on us.

http://phys.org/news/2013-11-nj-biologi ... -deer.html


The police are the real pawns in our times as they are controlled from artificial Corporate Legal Persons laws and rules of Govt INC's but have to interface with living people of all types. Driver licenses everywhere are all based on pure commercial activity privilege only, not just going to work or beach, and are universally "illegally" issued by STATEs to private use folks, as we didn't complete the business certification, like a trucking or taxi company drivers must by statue to be licensed. There is $$$ incentive to make more law to convict more folks too often with no real victim. Here's the incentive side of 'US Prison Inc.' Payne Weber and Corrections Corporation of America, lays out the scam on how much of the 'free' world works. Long detailed stuff I've weekly club to help use the data for our own protection.
freedom-school.com/keating/jean-keating-prison-treatise.html

Here's hour long video on importing a Corvette hang up. What is uncovered should be huge eye opener on who's or what is writing and enforcing laws in Australia and about everywhere else too. Sweet enough you can let your children watch but may give them nightmares the rest of their lives, like it does me. Red pill vs Blue pill stuff. Most basic application of law revolves around jurisdiction to apply. May help make sense of why politics makes so little sense too often.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umVj5XQYAi8

acotrel said:

Sam, If you get pulled over by the Australian police simply have a quiet chat with them without getting smart. In Australia they will often let you go without a ticket unless they are police women - then don't waste your time even trying to sway them. They always do their job 100% - just cop it sweet.

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That's not my experience with Australian Police. I've never talked my way out of a ticket ( although most of mine have been issued by machines rather than policemen).

In the UK I considered myself something of an expert in talking my way out of speeding fines. I've done it about a dozen times. I once overtook a police car at 95MPH and didn't get a ticket. My method was to admit you're in the wrong and accept their advice/telling off meekly without ever incriminating yourself by saying "Yeah I was doing 120 officer "

The conversations usually went like this:

" Do you know the speed limit here son?"
"Yeah, 70"
"And how fast were you going"
"Oh, must have been about 70"
"Don't be funny, you were doing 95"
"Really? It didn't seem that fast"
Repeat a few times.

"OK, you weren't doing anything stupid, just slow down OK?"
"OK, sure"




In Australia I've not heard of anyone getting off by being friendly to cops.

i have,

it was relatively simple in that the cop goes "how fast do yu think you were going there son?"

Me -
"i'd rather not comment on the grounds i might mislead an officer of the law with an incorrect answer rendering my statement that could be used against me at a later time in a court of the commonwealth.
i feel that to comment at this stage may place me in a position where a court of the commonwealth may find me in contempt of that court on the grounds that an inconsistency may or may not arise in any future testimony base upon any potential advice i may receive from legal council procured by me in response to a question from an officer of the law that may at a future point in time allege that i have committed an offence"

no speeding ticket - bastard fined me for an illegal helmet though

Many years ago I used to drive a 1940 model Ford Mercury. The brake drums were so worn they were hollow, so you always had to pump the brakes. The cops pulled me up one night going too fast, and the idiot who got me had left his offsider up the road a bit, so he stuck me in the back of the Studebaker Lark and drove back at high speed to pick him up. He was being all friendly and when he had his mate in the car, turned around and said to me ' tell him (the other cop) how bad your brakes are'. I simply mumbled 'they're OK' and shut up. But you don't have t o be stupid. Always good for a laugh those guys.