Commando Choppers please

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Honestly, if someone doesn't hate it, it wouldn't be right.
BTW, when is the next Norton meet? I'm sure I could get a good spot next to some beautifully restored trailer queen.

LOL! SK. To be frank about bikers, we are all a sensitive emotional lot or we would not be able to rationalize any motorcycling as its proven you are never fully in control of life and limb once in the saddle. A chopper is meant to be a rolling Flying Fickle Finger of Fate, as much or more so in the face of the builder themselves as it is to onlookers. Sometimes like SK its about only way to have a live example instead of parting out, so might as well make do. Another reality fact is compared to the racer cafe crowd the chopper riders are taking care not to press limits, except in the opens rolling on til cheeks press back w/o fear of wheelies and rear hardly gets out of line spinning its heart out. The only real issue is very sharp slow speeds turn, tire just flops w/o turning much but once about 10 mph or so they are just as handy as any other cycle. Recliner ease on the long hauls. I no longer hang out on INOC forum for the obnoxious put downs and you will run into similar attitude at their rallys where there are rows and rows of bikes in special labeled sections of many classes, then outside the arena out skirts they may or may not have a sign for "others" or slightly giving in "bobbers" where the ostracized choppers are allowed but not judged of course : ) The two I saw at Empire rally didn't fit inside the arena because one had lowered rear that made the stance chopper like on factory forks, the other had like one inch longer forks but otherwise about ordinary 750 Commando with a non cafe non factory seat, then there was Ms Peel towering 2" taller in front... only because toy submarine not powered to lower nose down as a dragster, so where do a low rider chopper Commando fit and expect reactions too? Don't get me wrong some of my best friends are INOC members.

I had a fella out here see my Peel and told me of his 750 Commando chopper. Said he spent $1000's on engine at likes of TC or Axtels shops and his hobby was blowing away all commers in wild drags. Said his method was pop the clutch in 4th and grab WOT and just hang on as 16"x 5" tire did its thing. Said one day was on THE Gravel and a dirt bike came by so they decided to have a go at it, said he was getting ahead till the marbles/arrowheads got him injured and destroyed his ride.

There is another maybe unsettling aspect about choppers for some, they are associated with lots of female fleshy parts displayed routinely around them, at least compared to the more prime and proper vintage crowd. This feature is a tough one to sneer at.

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http://www.google.com/search?q=iron+hor ... 39&bih=600
 
Don't make my stop this 'puter and turn around and slap ya silly.
ALL of us motorcyclers are emotionally attached to our special rides, so don't pick on Southern Kitchen just because a chopper isn't something you'd keep at home.
You should see the curled lips, sneers and snorts of disdain of modern hot shots on sports bike when seeing ole pushrod Ms Peel up close and noticed I was going to tag along... till they arrived later at next stop still in sneering in disgust but more at their own flashy corner cripples than Peel anymore.
 
Here's ole Sugar Bear and his long long bikes that's inspired me to eventually get or make a mile long springer and put it on Peel for rallys and drag strip use and the Bike Blues BBQ event out here.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM6zhH-0-fs[/video]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QSPUvUl0hj8&feature=fvwp[/video]

Even my buddy Wesley is a closet chopper admirer as his favorite helmet is a worn out Capt America style.
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I wish I knew something about motorcycles, so I wouldn't look like such a dill all of the time. If I could only grasp the concept of
being a "real" Norton owner. Maybe then I would be accepted by the sniveling, elitist know-it-all crowd. Man that would be sooooo cool.
Well, until then, I'll just pretend and keep on building this blasphemous contraption.
Commando Choppers please
 
Hehehe SK, get back to us when you get some motorcycle sense instilled, sheeze. Duh for one thing, canted cylinders are supposed to lean forward around here - not off to the sides, sheeze that'll be a learning curve fixing that oversight. If you ride those things in public you will be leaving a bad image for the rest of us civilized Commando owners to put up with. You have been warned it could take you down the road of no return. We've seen it happen before ya know.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcJ0ZLbls00[/video]
 
Hehe SK I found out on other Brit bike lists, its only takes one date with a sheep or one chopper ride or one strange cycle in garage and you are labeled for life.
 
btw what I cut my chopper teeth on and refer to as 'Righteous' implies a molded frame along the order of this one or that horrendous SS plate geometric jaggle, but still in same fantasy spirit of 'Righteous' to me.

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That is pretty righteous. I dream of one day stumbling into an old barn and finding the dust and bird shit covered metalflake, molded, excessively long springered, tall sissy barred, and molded
70's flashback to take home with me and ride the shit out of.
Or I'll just build one. It won't be a Norton though.

I did get this last spring. It was pulled from a trailer park, where it had been for close to twenty rears.
Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please
 
Commando Choppers please


" He has a heavy duty 5 speed 1980s English box with thicker shafts than quaife or TT Ind - it may no longer be available. Not sure about the cases. Remember that TC used to get away with stock cases - for a short time. I'm involved in supplying the longer bushless JS/Carrillo rods and lightweight 920cc pistons. The pistons are ceramic coated for this application. He told me that it runs "so much smoother" than his previous 880cc pistons which created so much vibration that it was "scary". His CR is 11.5:1 and he's using a JS 2 cam with the lightweight lifters so over-revving into valve float shouldn't be a problem.

He has it geared for 7200RPM at top speed and he has to hold it there for a minute or two so stress is a big concern and with all that power you just want it to stay together.

He uses gapless rings and a copper head gasket plus copper rings that dig into the head gasket to prevent leakage under the high combustion pressure. The head is a trick original Norton factory (R7 I think) racing head that comes with different valve locations & angles. The Huge valves required re-cutting the valve pockets in the pistons even though the pistons were already set up for stage 3 big valve heads.

The two into one exhaust was designed and developed on the dyno by Jim Mosher who also built the motor and set it up for Nitrous.

Jim M uses a computer to dial in the Nitros mix. The motor has spent a hour on the dyno so far and that's a whole lot of stress in itself to subject it to. But if its going to blow you'd rather do it before you travel and tuck in for a 160mph blast."

http://www.tonup.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6754
 
A little out of date on that one, Matt. The bike belongs to a friend of mine, Fred Eiker, and he crashed it at Bonneville in 2011 at somewhere near 150 mph. The bike was pretty trashed, and Fred was injured seriously. He's since decided no more racing on the Salt, and is returning the bike back to it's original road racing condition.

A bit of misinformation in the details too. The gear box is in fact a Quaife, but it is the heavy duty one, not the older gearset that fits the AMC shell. Cases were stock MK III, with shims in the bearing bore to allow using the narrower pre-MK III Nourish crankshaft. Cylinder head was a heavily modified RH7, welded into a bathtub configuration with giant valves. It originally was 872 cc, with Crower titanium rods and Omega pistons, but when Jim Mosher rebuilt it for Fred, he went to 920 cc and changed a lot of parts, so I'm not sure if it still has that head. I think it does. Fred went 155 mph at Bonneville in 2010 to tie the class record, with a mild shot of nitrous, and was pretty sure he could do much better in 2011. Before he installed the nitrous, and while it was still 872 cc, the best time was only in the low 130 mph range in 2008. A very mild shot of nitrous and a bunch of chassis changes put it into the 140s in 2009, and a bit more nitrous took it to 155 mph in 2010.

Besides the nitrous kit, Jim also installed a fuel/ ratio sensor system with some data logging capability. He said that it was invaluable in getting the right setup at Bonneville. He was recording the fuel/air ratio and rpm, so he could look at the entire run on his laptop, and make changes for the next run. You don't usually bet many runs at Bonneville, so a system like that saves a lot of time getting the setup right.

Lots more info and pictures of the bike on this forum. Just search for Commonwealth Norton, or Fred Eiker.

Ken
 
POwer makes our whole world go round and more power to the Norton cafe's, track bikes or bobbed down land speeders, however Choppers can thrill your cheeks back till slobbering planting their POwer too. I've had two almost identical tales of expensively hopped up 750 Commando choppers taking on all commers in the day by dropping clutch in 4th and just hanging on...

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqvaTZ0y6uc[/video]

pay close attention to this one as applies to Peel leaping into apexes ahead of over powered bikes that can't plant their power till too dam late...
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlGipHLp15U[/video]

Ms Peel will confuse categories doing drags as a crotch rocket squatter or laid back feet forward speard eagle obscenity.

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please

Commando Choppers please
 
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