Commando Choppers please

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Aw give it up, all choppers handle well enough to get around on and are not for racing just for feeling like bad ass king of the road while breaking fashion and handle bar height rules. Peacock tails don't help the males fly better just get laid back and laid more.
 
Peacocks?..Laid?.. Sounds ominous ... `s'pose next , we`ll be laughing at a 'featherbed' chop...
 
A picture is worth a thosand wors , some people say, for some reason .

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Just testing steve , thogh motocross might be a bit off on it there . :mrgreen:
 
Oh yeah even weirder wilder than mundane Commando choppers

Commando Choppers please
 
Jeeze, I didn`t realize they`d steal the mill & leave the featherbed, thats hard core iso-fandom...
 
I wasn't feeling the rear section that was done to this thing years ago, so I broke out the sawzall.
Now I'll be making new struts/shock mounts and sissy bar. Also lowering the back about an inch.
I just had to bring back this thread.
Commando Choppers please
 
Bad Boy Bad Boy SK, what ya gonna do when they come for you?
I was rummaging around in a mostly harley shop and stumbled on a very tall sissy bar with a trident on top. Its pretty heavy but then realized not if it was made of tubing. So this may be the flag pole to be seen over humps and camera mount besides a fickle finger of fate note on the end of Peel. Some one may throw a sheet over ours at rallys though but wouldn't cover up the message
 
Hi SK,
Maybe its just me, but I have always thought that the forks and handlebars should be at the same angle to look right.

GB
 
Yes and the extended exhausts too. Just a shop mock up right now so lets wait and see.
 
I was at a mate's workshop a few days ago and he was doing some work on a chopper for a young guy. It had a Harley 1500cc engine which had had the works done to it. My friend was a bit put out when I said I thought it was a waste of a good motor, and that it would have been much better t o build the bike as a cafe racer. It is very easy to build something which will grab you by the throat. Building such a torquey, powerful motor into a chopper is really asking for it. Using a commando to make a chopper is also a waste of a good bike. You might think you look 'bad-ass king of the road', but to anyone who knows anything about bikes you look like a dill.
 
Hehe Alan, that is very similar to the attitude I got from sports-race riders on well designed new efficient balloon tire wonders. Funnier yet was being out run by by a long in tooth Commando didn't improve their attitude a bit > but sure did mine : ) Remember your own attitude to your 850 Seeley till trying it out....

The Empire rally show off had rows with like 6 catagories of signs for various model, ages and styles of Nortons and Commando's then outside the main cluster was a make shift sign for Choppers Bobbers and Specials, with only 3 bikes represented, Ms Peel was one of them. She was not meant to appear or be a chopper but she was rather more chopperish tall and long in front than the two made to be so. hahaha One of the hardest things to figure out on a real chopper is the side or center stand so it don't have to be leaned on something like a real racer does. i've already gotten over the snearing attitudes to point I enjoy eliciting it so just picture Ms Peel with big ole 6 gallon tank that makes chopper guys groan and K/Q saddle seat that makes the cafe's squeal in disqust...

Commando Choppers please
 
Who knows what chopper riders do with a free hand

Commando Choppers please


Commando Choppers please


To ease and cleanse eyes of proper cafe riders clouding up on prior views
Commando Choppers please
 
A few years ago there was a craze on choppers in Melbourne. A friend of mine was driving along a curving country road which was surrounded by trees, a few miles out of towm. He saw the police and ambulances recovering the body of a biker who had been taken off into the trees by the weird steering geometry of his chopper. This is not smart stuff. They might look killer diller, but they are just that ! Personally I would never ride one, I've crashed enough already, and there is nothing worse than a bike that suddely does the wrong thing. My Seeley did it, and I thought I was decked for certain. I only recovered by accident when I turned the wick up again trying to get to a soft place to crash. The trouble with things like choppers and hot rods is that the response to accidents involving them induces do-gooders to introduce 'one size fits all' laws. In Australia we have the Australian Design Rules for motor vehicles. When these get enforced you cannot build anything unless you are prepared to pay minimum $2000 for an engineers report for registering it. It has killed off our kit car industry for things like clubmans (Lotus 7) sports cars . And we will never have motorcycle manufacturing in Australia, even for racing purposes. Our controlling bodies for both car and bike racing tend not to support constructors' race classes.
I am not trying to rain on your parade, but please think about what you are doing, it affects others in ways you might not have imagined. In Australia we have a desperate need to find opportunities to make desirable engineered products. We've almost completely lost our manufacturing industry and there are few hands-on jobs left for our kids . I have a great love of cafe racers, because I believe they actually lead somewhere . Choppers are a dead end, they don't usually handle, stop or go safely. So how could you build them as a business without massive indemnity insurance in a country with decent standards?
 
Aw shoot why stop your logic short of the bitter truth - that any and all motorcycles are deadly dangerous and its both immature and illogical for any one to own and ride one. I've ridden two up on righteous long flexy springer no brake front end and only issue was parking lot sharp turns and stopping on wet road down hill. Sissy Bar over head with seat half way up and feet way out forward. Worse thing is the ape hangers don't give much leverage so mostly just lean the turns easy as can be, once over 15-20 mph. They pick up bashed or dead riders on elite cycles in my region, gone off the edge into trees our just smack into bluff faces or animals. If ya ride ya can die or worse so get over it or get off it. I face this dilemma each ride. So yes about everyone here is at least as stupid as me, but may not realize it yet is all.

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First off, don't get your chopper info from TV. They show nothing but shit. Also, my Norton was cut up years ago. Trying to restore it would not be worth the time, money, and effort.
Fuck it, There are enough stock or Cafe Nortons in this world already.
I'm no motorcycle snob, as many Brit bike owners seem to be. I just like British bikes, and old HD's, and old Hondas, etc.
I agree, most of them in this thread are ugly. I like my Norton because its interesting, its different, and it will be flawless when its done.
Also, it'll put the smack down on plenty of old Shovels, Pans, whatever. I can't wait to get next to some of my buddies!
And about choppers not being safe, I know guys that can build, not some hack jobs, but choppers to ride. Pans, Shovels, Knuckles, Triumphs. Good handling (for a chopper) old bikes that get thousands of miles a year.
Ever ride a chopper long distance? They're great on the long straits, maybe not the twisties, but there aren't many from here to Minneapolis, or Iowa, or SD, or Chicago.
Honestly, if someone doesn't hate it, it wouldn't be right.
BTW, when is the next Norton meet? I'm sure I could get a good spot next to some beautifully restored trailer queen.
 
acotrel said:
I was at a mate's workshop a few days ago and he was doing some work on a chopper for a young guy. It had a Harley 1500cc engine which had had the works done to it. My friend was a bit put out when I said I thought it was a waste of a good motor, and that it would have been much better t o build the bike as a cafe racer. It is very easy to build something which will grab you by the throat. Building such a torquey, powerful motor into a chopper is really asking for it. Using a commando to make a chopper is also a waste of a good bike. You might think you look 'bad-ass king of the road', but to anyone who knows anything about bikes you look like a dill.

And about the "anyone who knows anything about bikes", comment. Hmmm, I guess the fact that my 78 Bonnie, which is purely stock, means I must be faking that I know anything about bikes. And my Super Rocket, I won't even get into the time and effort I'm spending redoing that.
Also, I don't build bikes because people think I'm cool, bad ass, or king of the road. I build bikes because "I" like them. If I wanted to be like the brainless masses and "be cool" I'd buy an Orange County Chopper, get a leather uniform, a bandanna, and stare you down at stop lights after I flick my cigarette but over my shoulder.
Your comments show ignorance, arrogance, and make it sound like you know less about motorcycles and motorcyclists that you seem to believe.
But we all have opinions and preferences, thats another reason I love motorcycles.
 
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