Tritons

Matt Spencer · Nov 5, 2013

Theyre essentially pretty much like one wouldve been , with upgrades ( you can get jetting for Mikunis in the U. S. ) to eliminate some less than perfect
aspects . If you cant get new monoblocks or G. P . / T . T. carbs , worst mess is not haveing short roadholders or putting on Ceranis where it keeps the front 6 ft in the air
like someone dids putting on a Z1 front end & a Vincent engine . As a ROAD BIKE there heritage is as a Bend Carverupper & Coffe Bar RACER ,
Ton downt Bypass . . . .

The odd lucky sod had a genuine Manx Frame or Entire Manx CHASSIS & Suspension . But majority were road mongrels .
1953 Wideline would make in SIXTY YEARS , Now . !

8) so accounts for a bit of ' varieation ' . Some even fit Brakes .

Rohan · Nov 6, 2013

Matt Spencer said:
Some even fit Brakes .

The fiends - thats destroying the historical integrity, the total artistic balance, the cultural sensitivity, the je ne sais quoi of it all.

Next they'll be fitting fairings, and electric motors, and disk brakes, and upside downies ! (to combine a few threads).
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That should have the grannies up in arms and protesting to the gubberment.
At this rate, where will it all end ??

Fletch · Nov 6, 2013

So with your train of thought, if I for instance owned Geoff Duke's TT winning Manx Norton, and I ripped it's motor out and replaced it with something else, put Miukni carbs, Ceriani forks and a dual disk front end on it, it would still be historically accurate, since what I just did to it is now part of it's "history"?

This makes absolutely no sense. The Triton was a homologous breed built by individuals; each was different. There was no mold or set standard for the Triton. For that matter, both engines in the Trtitons I posted are assembled from at least two different engines respectively.

grandpaul · Nov 6, 2013

Fletch said:
For that matter, both engines in the Trtitons I posted are assembled from at least two different engines respectively.

Another one of the beauties of a decent core engine design, parts of which can be swapped across 30+ years with minimum to zero fuss.

mikegray660 · Nov 6, 2013

ha- says the master of disaster -

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grandpaul said:
Another one of the beauties of a decent core engine design, parts of which can be swapped across 30+ years with minimum to zero fuss.

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acotrel · Nov 6, 2013

Rohan,
'That should have the grannies up in arms and protesting to the gubberment.
At this rate, where will it all end ??'

Even grannies, bogans and ferals have a right to a voice in a real democracy. You don't have to listen to them.

Rohan · Nov 6, 2013

acotrel said:
You don't have to listen to them.

We don't !!!

But some of em seem to even appear here, now and then...

daveh · Nov 6, 2013

Fletch - quick, think of something to get this thread back on topic before it degenerates into the usual slagging match!

Like some more photos - close-ups perhaps?

Fletch · Nov 7, 2013

Haha, will do. Supposed to have some decent weather this weekend and I need to get the bikes out and run them one last time before winter sets in . . .

Fletch · Nov 9, 2013

Here's a little history on the Slimline- the fellow who assembled it stopped by today and gave me the pictures and resource binder:

He started it in 1998, well before the recent 'café craze' and finished it in 2002. It has about 1000 miles since completion.

1969 Norton Atlas Slimline Frame (titled)
Widened swingarm to accept wider rear tire
Triumph conical rear hub laced to 18" Excel WM2
Suzuki 4-Shoe GT750 'Water Buffalo' front laced to 18" Akront WM2
Transmission is a four speed box with '78 T-140 5-speed gear set
MAP Belt Drive & Clutch
Triumph T110 matching cases with '63-65 unit crank, standard connecting rods
Head is a '61 T120 with welded on intake tubes with 3 degree taper to valve pocket
BTH Magneto (rebuilt by Woods Engineering)
32mm Mikuni carbs
Most bits are from Unity Equipe and Clubman Racing

Matt Spencer · Nov 10, 2013

Youve forgoten to mention the Most Important Part . !

The forks loook like theyll do the trick too .

Fletch · Nov 10, 2013

Haha, yeah, the cat is the only thing I may switch out . . . cool, but not my thing.

Didn't mention the Ceriani forks or the Works shocks as they have come up already in this lengthy thread.

Matt Spencer · Nov 10, 2013

Ive an idea it isnt as its commonly known , a cat . Its , being pre T120 Origin , a TIGER . Therefore etc

its not cute and freindly .

Fletch · Nov 10, 2013

Haha, now that I can purrrrr over :wink: My 14 year-old daughter likes the cat and since she thinks she will be inheriting the bike, I'll likely leave it.

Fletch · Dec 25, 2013

Stumbled across this 5 gal. Manx tank from an old Norton fellow's estate . . . resting on the Wideline to get the general idea.

Fast Eddie · Jan 20, 2014

This was my last Triton. Initially built for BHR, but replaced by an 8 valve job. Its 840cc with Norton crank and rods and a host of other stuff. One-off frame; it looks like a featherbed but its shorter and lower... and lighter... look how the unit motor 'fills' the frame. It was a quick bike but a rod let go. When the 8 valve was built, this was rebuilt as a road bike. Then I sold it. It was in Germany last I heard.

wilkey113 · Jan 20, 2014

I like that CMA brake. Been looking for one for a Norton that I'm building.
Did it work well?

chasbmw · Jan 20, 2014

Eddy,
Did you build the rob north framed triple? Looks great does Ito on the road?

Charles

Fast Eddie · Jan 21, 2014

wilkey113 said:
I like that CMA brake. Been looking for one for a Norton that I'm building.
Did it work well?

Well, short answer to your question is that NO, the brake did not work very well! I rode a couple of Dave Degans own race bikes and they worked great. This one had done very little when I bought it, I had it re-lined in soft shoes, skimmed to match the drum, set it up carefully, but it still wasn't right. It looked great though!

It also weighed a ton! I never raced it with this brake, I had a magnesium 4ls form Degans for that.

If you want a drum, I would personally advise buying a good 4ls. The money you would have to spend on a worn out CMA will buy you a top drawer 4ls.

Here's a close up of the CMA, lovely looking thing:

Fast Eddie · Jan 21, 2014

chasbmw said:
Eddy,
Did you build the rob north framed triple? Looks great does Ito on the road?

Charles

Hi Charles, if you're referring to those pics of the red and carbon Rocket 3... that's not a North chassis, its a Hyde Harrier.

I bought it as a complete bike, with very dated chassis components and a knackered engine. I kinda did it as a 'rolling restoration' over a few years.

Inevitably, I got carried away!

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