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quote... ''If I attach my charging lead to the battery it would poke out from under the tank I assume rather than the seat as usual. I'm not sure what these pig tail leads are. Supposedly they would just fit on top of the charging lead terminals on the battery terminals and poke out under the tank just the same? Would they have terminals to attach the jump start crocodile clips?''.... sorry if its already been mentioned- but Norton fit an optimate charging lead on all 961's new from the factory.. its nestled in a recess behind the top of the offside rear shock. Keeping the bike on charge permanently when not in use, I had no trouble at all with the Donny 961 i owned for 8 years and now a TVS 961 for 15 months ( up to now ).
 
961al said:
quote... ''If I attach my charging lead to the battery it would poke out from under the tank I assume rather than the seat as usual. I'm not sure what these pig tail leads are. Supposedly they would just fit on top of the charging lead terminals on the battery terminals and poke out under the tank just the same? Would they have terminals to attach the jump start crocodile clips?''.... sorry if its already been mentioned- but Norton fit an optimate charging lead on all 961's new from the factory.. its nestled in a recess behind the top of the offside rear shock. Keeping the bike on charge permanently when not in use, I had no trouble at all with the Donny 961 i owned for 8 years and now a TVS 961 for 15 months ( up to now ).
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That's reassuring. The charging lead seems neat. I had assumed the 961 didn't have one because when I test rode one at Donnington they actually sold me an optimate (Datatool) complete with charging lead. As it happens this gave up the ghost after only 3 months, which didn't feel like a good omen! I did manage to get a replacement though under warranty from Datatool.
My worry is jump starting. I do trickle charge but, as I found out, it isn't always a guarantee. My Bonneville refused to start once, not far from home, but I managed to bump start it and found later the regulater was defective (after only 7k miles!). In 2023 the blade I had wouldn't start and I was miles from home, so I took the seat off and used my micro jump starter. When I got home everything checked out, the battery was fine and was charging ok so I was stumped. I replaced the battery anyway. 9 months later it did the same thing again. Again battery ok and charging fine. I never did discover the cause, I part exed it for another bike!
 
If you're on a trickle charger and you need to jump your bike....the issue is with the charger, not the bike

Assuming the battery is ok!
 
albional said:
That's reassuring. The charging lead seems neat. I had assumed the 961 didn't have one because when I test rode one at Donnington they actually sold me an optimate (Datatool) complete with charging lead. As it happens this gave up the ghost after only 3 months, which didn't feel like a good omen! I did manage to get a replacement though under warranty from Datatool.
My worry is jump starting. I do trickle charge but, as I found out, it isn't always a guarantee. My Bonneville refused to start once, not far from home, but I managed to bump start it and found later the regulater was defective (after only 7k miles!). In 2023 the blade I had wouldn't start and I was miles from home, so I took the seat off and used my micro jump starter. When I got home everything checked out, the battery was fine and was charging ok so I was stumped. I replaced the battery anyway. 9 months later it did the same thing again. Again battery ok and charging fine. I never did discover the cause, I part exed it for another bike!
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Here is an example of a Jump Start lead :

Here is another example of a jump start pig tail lead :


As the captain would say : This is a non-problem
 
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kev said:
If you're on a trickle charger and you need to jump your bike....the issue is with the charger, not the bike

Assuming the battery is ok!
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The Bonneville refused to start again during a ride out, turned out it was the reg/rectifier. The blade wouldn't start during a rideout, it needed a jump start, but the battery was fine and fully charged when I arrived home. It happened once again 9 months later but was ok for months until I sold the bike. Obviously some sort of electical fault somewhere. I still use the trickle charger, it works fine.
kev said:
If you're on a trickle charger and you need to jump your bike....the issue is with the charger, not the bike

Assuming the battery is ok!
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The bike hadn't been used for about three weeks and was on the optimate. It started fine and I went on a 30 mile blast then stopped for coffee. When I came to start the bike again it wouldn't. I got home after jump starting it and everything seemed ok. I left the bike for several days (not on charge) and it started. Knowing I had the jump starter with me gave me the confidence to keep using the bike for a few more weeks. It behaved impeccably. I decided to change the battery anyway but a few months later the same thing happened. I still have the charger and now use it with my Bonneville and it works fine.
 
961al said:
quote... ''If I attach my charging lead to the battery it would poke out from under the tank I assume rather than the seat as usual. I'm not sure what these pig tail leads are. Supposedly they would just fit on top of the charging lead terminals on the battery terminals and poke out under the tank just the same? Would they have terminals to attach the jump start crocodile clips?''.... sorry if its already been mentioned- but Norton fit an optimate charging lead on all 961's new from the factory.. its nestled in a recess behind the top of the offside rear shock. Keeping the bike on charge permanently when not in use, I had no trouble at all with the Donny 961 i owned for 8 years and now a TVS 961 for 15 months ( up to now ).
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Anderson plug maybe , there are different sizes.
 
albional said:
The Bonneville refused to start again during a ride out, turned out it was the reg/rectifier. The blade wouldn't start during a rideout, it needed a jump start, but the battery was fine and fully charged when I arrived home. It happened once again 9 months later but was ok for months until I sold the bike. Obviously some sort of electical fault somewhere. I still use the trickle charger, it works fine.

The bike hadn't been used for about three weeks and was on the optimate. It started fine and I went on a 30 mile blast then stopped for coffee. When I came to start the bike again it wouldn't. I got home after jump starting it and everything seemed ok. I left the bike for several days (not on charge) and it started. Knowing I had the jump starter with me gave me the confidence to keep using the bike for a few more weeks. It behaved impeccably. I decided to change the battery anyway but a few months later the same thing happened. I still have the charger and now use it with my Bonneville and it works fine.
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Ahh ok - Apologies. Thought they were needing jumped straight off the trickle charge
 
TonyA said:
Here is an example of a Jump Start lead :

Here is another example of a jump start pig tail lead :


As the captain would say : This is a non-problem
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Many thanks for that, I think the latter lead would connect nicely into the power pack. And your right it's not a deal breaker. Removing the back wheel is more of an issue with me. I personally think that all bikes with spoked wheels should come with a centre stand, or at least the option of one.
 
albional said:
Many thanks for that, I think the latter lead would connect nicely into the power pack. And your right it's not a deal breaker. Removing the back wheel is more of an issue with me. I personally think that all bikes with spoked wheels should come with a centre stand, or at least the option of one.
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One of the guys on the Facebook group manufactures and sells removable bobbins which fit into the hollow rear axle. Obviously not much good when it comes to wheel removal, but for storage and cleaning etc. pretty handy.
 

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