Thruxton R details

acotrel · Feb 7, 2016

About that Vincent - I once rode a friend who owned a registered Rapide which was on 13 to one comp. methanol fuel and had a Velocette swing arm rear end. When I rode it I couldn't believe what was happening - that torque was amazing. I kept wondering there the forward thrust was coming from.

72Combat · Feb 7, 2016

worntorn said:
List is $15500 CDN for the Thruxton R. The dealership gave $500 off for pre-ordering.
At today's/exchange rate, 15,000 CD = $10,854 USD

Pdi, freight and taxes extra.

Here in NZ will be $16000 US + on road costs.
The old model is out the door for $10 US.

BMW R9T is about the same price as the Thruxton R.

Maybe time to clear out all the Triumph pre unit and BMW projects and move on.... :roll:

Fast Eddie · Feb 8, 2016

72Combat said:
worntorn said:

List is $15500 CDN for the Thruxton R. The dealership gave $500 off for pre-ordering.
At today's/exchange rate, 15,000 CD = $10,854 USD

Pdi, freight and taxes extra.

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Here in NZ will be $16000 US + on road costs.
The old model is out the door for $10 US.

BMW R9T is about the same price as the Thruxton R.

Maybe time to clear out all the Triumph pre unit and BMW projects and move on.... :roll:

Same here in the UK; Thruxton will be around the same price as the BMW R nine T. And the BMW is a very, very nice bike and finished to a superb standard.

And its made in Germany!

So the Thrux has got to be good if its gonna compete on merit. We should find out soon hopefully...

worntorn · Feb 8, 2016

But you just can't call the R nine T pretty- - the Thruxton and Thruxton R on the other hand are raving beauties.
One 20 something Sport Bike rider on the BC Sportbike said of the new Thruxtons- does liking these bikes so much make me into an old person?

I've just never warmed to any of the BMW designs, though no doubt they have built some good machinery over the years, definitely not so much in recent years with all of their various problems.
Nigel, how was the BMW trans?
The bike I rode was 2010 r1200rt. I believe this is the same engine/trans as the Rnine t uses, 110 hp 88 ft lbs.
It had very clunky shifting and lots of low speed lash effect in the shaft drive. Supposedly some of this has been dealt with on the newer models. It had 40,000 miles on the clock so wear may have been making things worse.

Glen

davamb · Feb 8, 2016

worntorn said:
...the Thruxton and Thruxton R on the other hand are raving beauties.

Hey??? You must see something in them that I don't Glen, the tank looks too dumpy, the same echoed in the seat. The vertical cylinders just don't say "cafe racer" to me at all. More like an 'omage of borrowed cliches rather than the real thing. On the other hand, dunno what it is about their looks, but any Vincent could grace my garage floor at any time.

worntorn · Feb 8, 2016

Dave, I'm pretty sure you are in the minority on the Triumph. I stopped by the "Reborn" tour when it was in Seattle and couldn't get near the Thruxton R.
Same thing at the Vancouver bike show here in Abbotford BC. The Triumph rep told me how many alcohol wipes it was taking to remove the dried on mandrool from the Rs after each show, I believe the number was 83.

Yeah, there is something about a Vincent twin. Doesn't work without that Vincent engine in there though. Someone fitted a 90 degree Ducati into a Vincent rolling chassis and, though it works fine, only a mother could love it.....

Glen

davamb · Feb 8, 2016

Hmm, ok Glen, maybe they look better in the flesh. I'll have a decent look next time I'm down at the dealer. I have a Tiger 800 XrX so down that way occasionally and am not anti - Triumph by any means.

Ducati engine in a Vincent chassis? Why???? That's just silly.

worntorn · Feb 8, 2016

I guess the builder had a spare Ducati Monster engine and enough Vincent parts to make up the rolling chassis.

As pretty as the bike is (the new Thruxton R, not the Ducent) the best detail on the new Thruxton might be the motor's grunt- have a look at this torque line

Fast Eddie · Feb 8, 2016

worntorn said:
But you just can't call the R nine T pretty- - the Thruxton and Thruxton R on the other hand are raving beauties.
One 20 something Sport Bike rider on the BC Sportbike said of the new Thruxtons- does liking these bikes so much make me into an old person?
I've just never warmed to any of the BMW designs, though no doubt they have built some good machinery over the years, definitely not so much in recent years with all of their various problems.
Nigel, how was the BMW trans?
The bike I rode was 2010 r1200rt. I believe this is the same engine/trans as the Rnine t uses, 110 hp 88 ft lbs.
It had very clunky shifting and lots of low speed lash effect in the shaft drive. Supposedly some of this has been dealt with on the newer models. It had 40,000 miles on the clock so wear may have been making things worse.

Glen

Well, beauty is in the eye of, etc...

I like the way the R9 strikes a balance between having traditional vitues but not being an actual retro design. And the more I look at it, the more it grows on me.

Ref the trans, it was generally good, not clunky low down, didn't notice excessive shaft lash, the only negative I found was that it didn't seem to like clutchless upward changes when pressing on a bit. Not sure if it was the bike or the rider at fault here tho!

worntorn · Feb 8, 2016

The lurching problem showed up at low speed. Even the owner hasn't been able to finesse his way around it and as a first time rider on that bike I found it quite unnerving. Typically this shows up at very low speed, right in a situation where you require good control, for example slowly making your way thru a busy parking lot.
The bike lurches a bit from the slack in the shaft drive and this causes the rider to involuntarily move the throttle which in turn amplifies the problem.
I've read that this is a common problem with all shafties. I did not notice this problem with the Guzzi Lemans, but I also did not try to ride it slowly for any distance.

Some BMW owners discuss the problem here

http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php ... e-position

72Combat · Feb 8, 2016

worntorn said:
The lurching problem showed up at low speed. Even the owner hasn't been able to finesse his way around it and as a first time rider on that bike I found it quite unnerving. Typically this shows up at very low speed, right in a situation where you require good control, for example slowly making your way thru a busy parking lot.
The bike lurches a bit from the slack in the shaft drive and this causes the rider to involuntarily move the throttle which in turn amplifies the problem.
I've read that this is a common problem with all shafties. I did not notice this problem with the Guzzi Lemans, but I also did not try to ride it slowly for any distance.

Some BMW owners discuss the problem here

http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php ... e-position

I dunno about the whole shaft drive clunky thing....my old BMW goes pretty good with its 71 BHP :roll:
My Guzzi is not too bad but heavy flywheels make shaft bikes very clunky.

worntorn · Feb 9, 2016

That one looks as though it wouldn't hang about in parking lots very often.

Here's another look at the Thruxton R

oleblu72 · Feb 10, 2016

Sounds like it behaves just about like my old 67 Lightning I use to ride back in the early 70's turn the bars either way and it was good for about 100 rpm more made it interesting in slow traffic and parking lots. I even took my test on it for my bike license kinda made it tricky maneuvering around the orange safety cones .

Mark

worntorn · Feb 10, 2016

This lurching is caused by slack or "lash" in the drive train. I've never experienced anything like it on any chain drive bike.
It did take me back to my herky jerky learning to drive days on a manual transmission Ford Cortina.

Glen

acotrel · Feb 11, 2016

I've had the situation where a sort of bounce occurs in the transmission and if you react the wrong way it amplifies. Usually all you need to do is apply a bit more throttle and the oscillation disappears.

Fast Eddie · Feb 29, 2016

Well, Triumph seem to be doing one of the worst new model launch campaigns in history! Unless something unbelievable happens, they have exceeded my ability to stay interested.

Personally, my thoughts are that they are struggling, the bike is either too heavy or too low on power and they are desperately trying to squeeze more out of it to match the 'hype' and general expectations that are all over t'internet.

Me... I took an R nine T for a spin again the other day... we had a really good fun blast... the design seems to grow on you... the overall quality is faultless... its looking tempting...

davamb · Feb 29, 2016

Fast Eddie said:
... I took an R nine T for a spin again the other day... the design seems to grow on you...

And I thought the Triumph was ugly!

swooshdave · Mar 1, 2016

Fast Eddie said:
Well, Triumph seem to be doing one of the worst new model launch campaigns in history! Unless something unbelievable happens, they have exceeded my ability to stay interested.

Personally, my thoughts are that they are struggling, the bike is either too heavy or too low on power and they are desperately trying to squeeze more out of it to match the 'hype' and general expectations that are all over t'internet.

Me... I took an R nine T for a spin again the other day... we had a really good fun blast... the design seems to grow on you... the overall quality is faultless... its looking tempting...

They are launching the Street Twin, then the Bonneville and lastly the Thruxton. Considering how much work it takes to launch a new model, let alone three new models it's not surprising they are staggering it.

worntorn · Mar 1, 2016

One of the members of the rat forum mentioned that he owns an r 9 t. Apparently that launch went on for one full year.

The dealer expects my bike to be here in a few weeks. If it shows up that quickly ( didn't I just order it?) , no complaints.

And if the power output matches the line above, no complaints on power.

I would have to strap a Jado rocket onto my beloved Commando to get that much thrust, hop ups won't do it.

Glen

worntorn · Mar 1, 2016

davamb said:
Fast Eddie said:

... I took an R nine T for a spin again the other day... the design seems to grow on you...

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And I thought the Triumph was ugly!

One last try
I mean c'mon, are we looking at the same bike? Damn thing is the definition of " beautiful motorcycle" The Japanese must wonder why they can't come up with something that looks like this instead of all those transformers.

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