Thruxton R details

The Triumph show was in town last night. I got to crawl all over the bikes and of course I took a couple pictures...







The top clamp is gorgeous. It looks like something off an old Italian bike. Stunning.




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Rear hub looks like a Manx.





I will be selling my 2009 Bonneville to get a crack at one of these. The bikes are very nice, the details are special and well, I want.


Here are some more pics of the other bikes.

swooshdave said:

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Dummy monoblocs... probably the better working ones ;-)

Jean

The Thruxton R looks great and can't wait to take one for a test ride when they arrive at my local dealer, I love my 2013 Thruxton but had to spend a bit of money on it to get it to handle great, the new R would not need a cent spent on it and the extra HP will make it even more fun to ride, thanks for putting up the pics, at leese Triumph can keep up the demand not like the problems Norton is having with supply, be intresting to see how much they will be when they arrive here in Aussie land as we pay 50% tax on new bikes and cars.

Ashley

I couldn't tell any difference between the Thruxton frame and the Bonnevilles.

And they still won't say what these things weigh. The 900 felt small. I couldn't tell on the 1200s as they were locked down. I'd be shocked if the bikes were less than 450 lbs.

But I bet you could drop 15 lbs and add 10 hp from dumping the cat alone. There will be a massive market for exhausts for these things.

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Here's a great video from MikeT!

Sat on the Thruxton R here at the IMS Bike show last weekend. It was also locked down on show stand. Felt narrow at the tank where your knees would be and I liked that. Dealer said $500 deposit would secure although he said one of the badged ones would be really difficult to get at this stage. He had taken 4 deposits already that day. $14.5K + Tax,setup fees etc

ashman said:

be intresting to see how much they will be when they arrive here in Aussie land as we pay 50% tax on new bikes and cars.

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Even luxury vehicles only pay 33% ?

Great looking bike, be interesting to hear how they go with that flash looking suspension.
They look not unlike the recent Royal Enfield, there has to have been some copying there somewhere...

Rohan said:

ashman said:

be intresting to see how much they will be when they arrive here in Aussie land as we pay 50% tax on new bikes and cars.

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Even luxury vehicles only pay 33% ?

Great looking bike, be interesting to hear how they go with that flash looking suspension.
They look not unlike the recent Royal Enfield, there has to have been some copying there somewhere...

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The fit and finish on the Triumph is light years ahead of the RE. It's like comparing a BMW to a Ural...

This might be true.
(But, owning older Enfields, it hasn't always been so.)

But, superficially, they do look somewhat similar....

Honestly the only similarities I can think of is the color of the tank, color of the shock springs and that both companies use to make bikes in England.

Oh, and they both have two wheels... :mrgreen:

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Honestly the only similarities I can think of

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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The expression "2 peas out of the same pod" just won't seem to go away though....

And they are both under 100 hp- although maybe just under for the R, it looks to be around the 95 bhp mark judging by the torque line.
I think the RE is about 28 bhp on a good day?

Regarding the exhaust, Triumph has that one planned out so as to avoid handing sales $ to aftermarketers. There is a factory race kit available that will delete the catalytic unit and also uses an even hotter cam. Rumour is it will knock off 12 lbs and add 16 HP, so could see somewhere around 110 HP with the race kit.

From the torqu line again, there will be absolutely tons of Commando like low and midrange power. More like Commando x2!!
Someone on the 961 forum stated that the Thruxton R (or T- Rex) is not in the same league as the Norton. I agree, it isn't, however I think that poster meant that the Triumph was inferior somehow.
I see it the other way. Norton has some serious catching up to do, both on spec and on detail.

I'll leave Norton alone on reliability questions etc as the new Bonnie are as yet unproven, however Hinckley Triumph has a great track record for building bulletproof smooth runners right out of the box.

On spec- A watercooled 1200 six speeder with ABS, 3 ride modes ,Traction control and ride by wire is all goodstuff.

On detail- That view of the fork top in Dave's photos, and many other details- just lovely.

Gonna make a run down to Seattle tomorrow, can't wait for the show to get to Vancouver.

Glen

worntorn said:

I think the RE is about 28 bhp on a good day?

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Thats probably twice what my old Enfield would make on a good day.
But its still quite rideable.
Have to pick your roads and riding companions though.

Not in the same league as a Thruxton or modern riding, granted.
Be interested to hear how that suspension goes.

After owning my 2013 Thruxton for just on 3 years, it will be hard to decide to upgrade to the new R, after clocking up 27k on it now and the motor is just starting to loosen up and spending the extra money on the suspenssion upgrades which I will never get back if I sold it, but its such a reliable bike, but I do like the looks of the new R, so I might wait for awhile before I dicide as any new designs will surely have a few teething problems, but then Triumph have been around for sometime now, I will just wait till I can ride one first before I take the big leap.

As for the Thruxtons and Bonnies frames they are the same on the old models so I am sure they be the same on the new models, just the steering angle will be diffrent.

Ashley

According to the lead engineer on the new Bonneville design team, there are three different frames, one for the Street Twin, one for the t120s and one for the Thruxtons. The Thruxtons also get an alloy swing arm. So with the different frame , lighter crank and higher output engine, the Thruxtons are no longer just a Bonneville with different seat and tank. Especially so the R, with all of it's additional upgrades.

Glen

worntorn said:

According to the lead engineer on the new Bonneville design team, there are three different frames, one for the Street Twin, one for the t120s and one for the Thruxtons. The Thruxtons also get an alloy swing arm. So with the different frame , lighter crank and higher output engine, the Thruxtons are no longer just a Bonneville with different seat and tank. Especially so the R, with all of it's additional upgrades.

Glen

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Thats good to hear, there is so little imfo about the bikes so far, will make it more exciting to see one close up as well throwing a leg over it, not sure when they be hitting our streets.

Ashley

I looked at the frames as closely as I could and they didn't look very different. I can't wait to see what the actual differences are.

Probably just the steering head angle and the alloy swing arm for the Thruxtons as compared to the T120.
I suppose those are two major items.

Glen

Glen, have you managed to prise any specs, or estimates of, from your dealer yet?

Triumph are really dragging this one out and I see predictions of 550+lbs wet weight and high 60 RWHP on other forums which would be a tad disappointing if true, as they're higher and lower than hoped respectively.

These bikes have to be up there with the a Guzzi Griso and R Nine T performance wise ...

Fast Eddie said:

Glen, have you managed to prise any specs, or estimates of, from your dealer yet?

Triumph are really dragging this one out and I see predictions of 550+lbs wet weight and high 60 RWHP on other forums which would be a tad disappointing if true, as they're higher and lower than hoped respectively.

These bikes have to be up there with the a Guzzi Griso and R Nine T performance wise ...

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Nigel, I've seen some of those predictions too and they are all coming from people who have no intention of buying the new bike and are perhaps a wee bit jealous of those who are. One fellow in particular is upset with Triumph for stopping production of the old air cooled Bonneville (after just 15 years), which he thinks should have goe on forever without updating.
So I don't know where they are getting these poor numbers from, I have no idea because Triumph has only released torque figures. It's easy enough to calculate HP from the torque though, and there will be plenty of HP ( for my needs at least)

I think Triumph is still tweaking things with the 1200, that is why they have not released the final numbers. MotorCyclist magazine reviewed the new Bonneville in their December issue. It appears that their info dates back to late Summer and the information is direct from Triumph. The 1200 Thruxton engine was rated at 107nm torque. Our torquey 850 Commandos make 76 nm and we know how strong those bikes are.
So 107 would be an incredibly powerful engine.

By the October 28 th release, that torque line had moved up to a peak torque of 112 NM at 4950 rpm. That is shown on that wide flat torque Chart that Triumph provided for the press.
Sometime after that, the main Triumph website was updated to list the Thruxton peak torque at 120 NM!
120 NM at 4950 rpm is 85 bhp and the bike revs to 7000, or possibly higher. I noticed that the first Thruxtons on display had a/red line on the tach at 7000 rpm but the later display bikes have the red line removed.
I don't see power being in short supply!

As far as weight goes, it's impossible to know , but for the Thruxton R with it's alloy swing arm, alloy wheels and lightweight Show a Big piston/Brembo front end ( same as 2015 Gixxer) , it's not going to be an overly heavy bike. It might be 450 dry, or it could be a little less. Twenty pounds one way or the other won't kill the deal for me.

It's not going to go thru the 1/4 mile as fast as a 200 bhp sportbike, but none of those make 120 NM at 4950 either. It should be a great ride.

Glen