Stuart Garner 'welcome' at NOC agm?

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Cheshire bloke said:
Just a few words to say I think the personal comments in the first post are out of character for this forum and are not needed.

Norton is just a business, let the business men get on with it, and the Norton name will live on and evolve as it always has done.

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I agree. Personally i really hope Mr Garner and co make a go of it, as i'd love to see new production quality made Nortons on the road, and for the name/brand to live on after my lifetime. Yes, there's been problems, and yes, people may have lost money which i agree is terrible.
 
BA10BOON said:
Personally i really hope Mr Garner and co make a go of it, as i'd love to see new production quality made Nortons on the road
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The bikes have been in production now for almost three years, so I'd say they are making a go of it.
 
Lab, You are correct :!: plus demand is proberly still out striping supply. with time they should be getting better and quicker at production.
 
Some might wonder if demand is due to incompetency or part of their marketing strategy. Maybe a little of both.
 
Snorton74 said:
Some might wonder if demand is due to incompetency or part of their marketing strategy. Maybe a little of both.
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I thought it had always been part of their marketing strategy? In any case, there's no way such a small factory could realistically keep pace with demand.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/300/7915/ ... arner.aspx

Stuart Garner, Sept. 2010,
There will never be an over-supply of bikes. Big volume is not what Norton is about. Slightly under supplying the demand generates exclusivity and helps residual values: both are long term benefits for Norton customers
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Snorton74 said:
Some might wonder if demand is due to incompetency or part of their marketing strategy. Maybe a little of both.
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That's like blaming CNW for not building enough bikes fast enough.
 
Patrick Godet builds maybe 3 or 4 Egli reps per year, about 100 grand each and people just ooh and ahh over them.
I doubt the 998 version is much quicker than the 961 Norton, though the 1330 should be. I never hear any negativity about his wait list of a year or so, in fact it is part of the whole Egli "buying experience", seems to be bragging rights!

Glen
 
L.A.B. said:
BA10BOON said:
Personally i really hope Mr Garner and co make a go of it, as i'd love to see new production quality made Nortons on the road
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The bikes have been in production now for almost three years, so I'd say they are making a go of it.
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Fair point indeed. I was suggesting that i hope they make a go of it long term, and profitably, so they can continue to invest back into the business. :)
 
I got a snotty comment from NEC when I ventured an opinion about the new Norton company. Am I bovered ?
I have my doubts about their survival. I hope they get their act together and continue to make bikes.
Would be nice to see Norton's on the road's all over the world.
 
Throber said:
I got a snotty comment from NEC when I ventured an opinion about the new Norton company. Am I bovered ?
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Obviously you are-or you wouldn't have mentioned it.
 
in schools we had professors from England whoose pronunciation was hard to follow instead of cap-pill-lary he'd say capp-pilleei-lary so fast couldn't hear anthing but the liiiiarys. Same with phone orders to UK, I gave up after couple calls to Less and Mick. I like the various ways to refer to women though.
 
hobot said:
in schools we had professors from England whoose pronunciation was hard to follow instead of cap-pill-lary he'd say capp-pilleei-lary so fast couldn't hear anthing but the liiiiarys. Same with phone orders to UK, I gave up after couple calls to Less and Mick. I like the various ways to refer to women though.
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I went on motorcycle trips to Louisiana and also to Tennessee and sometimes I had a very hard time "processing" the quite different accent in those areas to what I am used to around here (I am French speaking but fluent in English)! A challenge but still very interesting!
 
Cheshire bloke said:
Norton is just a business, let the business men get on with it, and the Norton name will live on and evolve as it always has done.CB
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I think history says that it was businessmen who were always responsible for all the bad things that ever happened to Norton and the British motorcycle industry.

The best things about British motorcycles always came from brilliant motorcyclists, engineers, inventors and riders like Joe Craig, Pa Norton and Geoff Duke. AMC cut the heart out of Norton, and it's "businessmen" sold off the racing department to Seeley and Dunstall. The names Seeley and Dunstall will always be revered, the names of the AMC businessmen who helped drive the industry into the ground will be forgotten.

As for the NOC, they are not so much interested in Norton motorcycles and their history as being popular and a social club, pretty much the same as this forum or any club or website. Taking in money and/or getting numbers in web-clicks, members etc. takes precedence over everything else. Anyone can be any kind of shister or liar and promote any sort of scam as long as they smile and serve the puppet-masters. It is not what you know but who you blow.
 
Cheshire bloke said:
Norton is just a business, let the business men get on with it, and the Norton name will live on and evolve as it always has done.CB
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beng said:
I think history says that it was businessmen who were always responsible for all the bad things that ever happened to Norton and the British motorcycle industry.
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Wasn't it said that Pa Norton was no businessman, and the fledgling Norton Co was already near bankrupt in 1913.
When the Shelley Co bailed em out.

Same as in 1953, when AMC bought in...

swings and roundabouts.
Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it....
 
In the early '70s I used to read all the motor cycle press, papers and magazines, including the American ones. That stopped when in a comparison test an American magazine considered that a Commando was agricultural, compared to a Harley!

Anyway, apart from the "new" Norton having a balancer shaft (I believe) I reckon it's a cracker. If the NOC want Stuart Garner to address them surely its up to them.
cheers
wakeup
 
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