Pipes...

Fast Eddie · Jul 18, 2018

Ollie at Thiele Motorsports is developing some new ‘made in Germany’ pipes.
First pick shows the shorty (quite peashooter looking), a longer version, and a stock one as a comparison.
Other picks show the shorties fitted.
They look pretty good IMHO.
He’s also doing a 90mm big bore kit (approx 1005cc if my maths is correct).

BritTwit · Jul 18, 2018

What, no supercharger yet?

john clark · Jul 18, 2018

They look good Eddie

TonyA · Jul 18, 2018

Look like they might increase the cornering clearance too. Are those DB killers in the photo ? Did he say a price ?

gchoppin · Jul 18, 2018

I'm liking the shorties. Do they have an estimated time to market? Pictures suggest very nice workmanship

Clive · Jul 19, 2018

Even I don't mind the look of those shorties.

I wonder if Norton might have something to say about the design....

Fast Eddie · Jul 19, 2018

They do long ones as well, I’ll post some pics next, but I’m obviously a shortie man through and through!

Seriously though, I really liked the peashooter style of these shorties.

Yes, the pics show them with and without DB killers.

Apparently, they’re TUV approved (a tough standard), they’re being road tested currently, more info on price and timing will follow.

Fast Eddie · Jul 19, 2018

Here’s the long ones...

Dkluyskens · Jul 19, 2018

nice pipes !! And as far as I can see, he's running them decatted...
still loving my shorties though...For the moment I refitted the cats, not only because of the slightly less deafening sound, but I noted that with the decat, my clothes smelled much more like exhaust than with the cats. Did anyone notice that too ?

Fast Eddie · Jul 19, 2018

If it’s been mapped for,a cat I’d leave it in, if it’s been mapped for no cat I’d leave it out.

I’ve not noticed any particular pongs on my clothing with my de cat. Well, nothing over and above the normal oil / petrol odours anyway !

Dkluyskens · Jul 19, 2018

haha ! Well, that's the clue... finally, after many many months, my Belgian dealer is able to reflash the ECU. Apparently there are 3 maps (as far as what he told me is correct) for the Euro4 bikes : stock exhaust, loud pipes with decat and loud pipes without decat... So I have to choose if I'm going to refit the decat pipe or not !
As the bike runs now (OEM map, cats, Norton shorties), I don't smell of petrol fumes or exhaust !

Britfan60 · Jul 19, 2018

Fast Eddie said:
If it’s been mapped for,a cat I’d leave it in, if it’s been mapped for no cat I’d leave it out.

I’ve not noticed any particular pongs on my clothing with my de cat. Well, nothing over and above the normal oil / petrol odours anyway !

Real bikers wear black. lol

Fast Eddie · Jul 19, 2018

Dkluyskens said:
haha ! Well, that's the clue... finally, after many many months, my Belgian dealer is able to reflash the ECU. Apparently there are 3 maps (as far as what he told me is correct) for the Euro4 bikes : stock exhaust, loud pipes with decat and loud pipes without decat... So I have to choose if I'm going to refit the decat pipe or not !
As the bike runs now (OEM map, cats, Norton shorties), I don't smell of petrol fumes or exhaust !

Well, seriously, I think that's because in standard E4 set up, the poor thing is strangled nearly to death and is only sipping the merest amount of fuel, there's not even enough to smell!

gchoppin · Jul 19, 2018

Fast Eddie said:
Ollie at Thiele Motorsports is developing some new ‘made in Germany’ pipes.
First pick shows the shorty (quite peashooter looking), a longer version, and a stock one as a comparison.
Other picks show the shorties fitted.
They look pretty good IMHO.
He’s also doing a 90mm big bore kit (approx 1005cc if my maths is correct).

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I’d love to be their first customer for the shorties. Are the a Germany based operation? I googled the name and only found a company in the US.

Dkluyskens · Jul 19, 2018

https://home.mobile.de/THIELMOTORSPORT#ses

Fast Eddie · Jul 25, 2018

Another version from Thiele Motorsport. Prices etc announced next week I believe...

Raphi · Jul 25, 2018

Oh mein Gott!!!

Welshrugby · Jul 27, 2018

Pipes and Plates (UK)

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2018/july/legal-advice-motorbike

Thats me done for

Fast Eddie · Jul 28, 2018

Welshrugby said:
Pipes and Plates (UK)

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2018/july/legal-advice-motorbike

Thats me done for

No points

BritTwit · Jul 28, 2018

Welshrugby said:
Pipes and Plates (UK)

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2018/july/legal-advice-motorbike

Thats me done for

So the MOT's assumption that you simply intended to make the motorcycle nosier is the problem here.

Clearly all you need to tell the MOT to avoid an issue is that it was not your intention to make the exhaust nosier, but that you just wanted to make the bike faster!
The increased noise was just an unfortunate side effect.

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