Hi from Australia

Hi Foxy

The rims are Akront 19", 2.15 40 spokes, the oilcooler is a Lockhart, it has been on the bike now for 30 years but you can still get them and the swingarm is standared 57 Wideline Featherbed, this bike I first built it in 1979 and it was set up with low bars and rearset foot pegs, but now I'm older have set it up for cruising and built for tight winding roads and a few hi speed runs... Will put some more pics up soon when its finished and on the road...

Ashman

lcrken said:

.... The same bike was clocked by the AMA radar gun at Daytona in 1985 at 141 mph, although with a different exhaust system.

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165mph is 117% of 141mph and thus for 165mph the bike would need a power injection of another 60%. For 175mph it would be almost twice the power.

Just adding some persepctive.

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Thanks and ditto.


Tim

More persepective. In my previous post I forgot to mention weight. My racer weighs just barely under 300 pounds totally dry (no oil, no gas). I worked for quite a few years to get it under the magic 300 mark, with lots of titanium fasteners, axles, and such. There's still a bit more to be lost, but not a lot, and doing so would be both expensive and time consuming. Now that I've hit the 300 mark, I probably won't put a lot of effort into weight reduction. Now that my racing days are about over, I'm thinking about putting it back to a street legal cafe racer. That's what it was when I first bought it back in 1984. This is a shot of how it looked then. The owner didn't have a garage, so he parked it in his bedroom.



Ken

lcrken said:

More persepective. In my previous post I forgot to mention weight. My racer weighs just barely under 300 pounds totally dry (no oil, no gas). I worked for quite a few years to get it under the magic 300 mark, with lots of titanium fasteners, axles, and such. There's still a bit more to be lost, but not a lot, and doing so would be both expensive and time consuming. Now that I've hit the 300 mark, I probably won't put a lot of effort into weight reduction. Now that my racing days are about over, I'm thinking about putting it back to a street legal cafe racer. That's what it was when I first bought it back in 1984. This is a shot of how it looked then. The owner didn't have a garage, so he parked it in his bedroom.

Ken

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Didn't that mag weight like 40lbs?

I don't know what it weighed, but it sure did stick out. I took it off and converted back to points and coil when I started racing it. I later switched to the ARD mags, one of which is still on the bike. Still, they are still subject to crash damage. I trashed the first ARD in a crash.

Ken

Gosh Ken, you look the business outfitted and seated on the salt.
I've gotten a bit slack in my novice anal mass reduction on Peel.
Have at least half of all engine parts before and after weight penciled
next to parts book numbers. I've weighed washers and hose ok.

I guess Peel in base line from, w/o air station, water tank, Drouin,
luggage rack and big tank and cushy seat, san fenders and headlamp
may be darn close to 300#. Expect under 350# fully wet, blown, ready
for long cargo trip with full fairing and bags.



hobot

SteveMinning said:

Just for comparison my Manx weighs in around 300lb. It's a magnesium 500cc single with no electrical system whatsoever, no lights, no alternator, no voltage regulator, no wiring, alloy mudguards, magnesium wheel hubs, alloy engine plates, no speedo or cable, alloy fuel and oil tanks and magnesium housed gearbox with no kickstart mechanism, etc, etc.

I could use some tips on getting my Manx down to 250.

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You can shave a few pounds with titanium fasteners, axles, head steady strut, gearbox upper and lower bolts. lighter foot controls, drilled sprockets, and so on, but I think 250 pounds would be a miracle. By the time you get down to replacing the small fasteners with titanium, you're spending a lot of cash for small gains. It's kind of fun, though, if a bit addictive.

Ken

custom frame out of chromoly would be cool!

hobot said:

I guess Peel in base line from, w/o air station, water tank, Drouin,
luggage rack and big tank and cushy seat, san fenders and headlamp
may be darn close to 300#. Expect under 350# fully wet, blown, ready
for long cargo trip with full fairing and bags.

hobot

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Doesn't that blower and all parts weight 50lbs alone?

Drouin blower ~15 lb
600 watt cute alternator ~6 lb
Air station toy sub ~8 lb
2 qt water + tank + fittings ~ 5 lb filled.
So yeah about 35 lb of squid hunting weapons.
Peel will not need any of above to still be a spunky race engine 920
still equipped with horse power nullifying rump linkage handling.

But no crank end Lucas lump ~6
no battery tray oil tank one less qt of oil ~ 8
no LH exhaust plumbing ~ 9 lb,
no SS fenders no chain guard, no signal stalks no metal mirrors
no steel foot peg/controls, no anchor like horn, 5" head lamp,
no steel swing arm, fork guts Al, half shoe box wires gone,
Al wheels tubeless, so may be a wash.

In minimalist form Peel should most closely resemble one of these.

Oh yeah clunky Smiths tach and speedo clocks put up as spares for Trixie.
All frame accessory hardware mounting , for oil tank gas tank, covers and ignition
system removed as useless. Makes for a really sexy sleek frame with those warts gone.
Front - rear axles drilled out, lightening holes in cam cogs.
Wave race only brake rotors, big difference there.
Trying to figure how to be rid of the Norton side stand for
Al one, plus maybe center stand for daily use.
Fancy screen oil filter + shorter hoses over factory is worth maybe a lb less.
May make up for the coffee and breakfast loads inside me and frame
paint.

hobot

That'd make an awesome trials bike! Reminds me of a montesa

Those were 3 dedicated hill climbers at Baxter Cycle annual party.
Triumph and Norton powered. Wes gave me a button size tank
and have in mind a funny solo seat.
While I was taking photos one fell right over, nonchalant owner
slowly walked over and picked it up, then I mentioned the
clutch lever mount had swung around, he said yeah thats
because they are meant to just pick back up after going down.
BLING! light came on for me to also mount Peel's bar stuff lose
enough to swing out the way more than break off.

Peel is meant to play most trial hazards and sharp tight turns around
trees and hop up and roll along down logs and do scary
climb outs any mistakes takes ya all the way to the bottom.
My stomach hurt the first time I came upon 30-40 ft ravines,
took a few attempt to push hard enough over the edge
of steeper ones. Rod links made her a treat, even got to
run some deer over the fence and chase others over
tree falls in shoulder high brush bashing runs I'd surprised em.