Café Commando build thread

[britbike220]

Jean, since I don't know about frame integrity I am curious how cutting off the lower support under the main frame tube is going to work? It looks like an oil tank will be in its place, but is that structurally sufficient to hold the frame together?

Tim

 

[kommando]

With the 2 sides welded on the oil tank will act as a structural member, stronger than the missing tube.

 

[britbike220]

Kinda thought that, but like to know what's going on for sure, thanks.

 

[Hobot]

I left the spine thought tube in place on Peel OIF. Here loop frame rails are used, one to sent oil to front of spine, the other to take oil out of spine, both at rear or the front depending on which is lower at the time. Drains are at bottom of each frame loop, just off bottom run so rocks/logs/loading don't wipe em off. By placing front tire on a small block I can make drains lowest point to drain. Sediments should half flow out and half settle in place. I have a pre-filter right before oil enters pump. I can't clean out any the frame so will just pickle the surface stable to flaking off and corroding much over time, I hope.

I am doing it to get more visual space, less mass and maybe more cooling.

 

[Hobot]

Here's what I'm going to try to preserve OIF insides. I've some experience with the regular phos acid fixes and don't have much respect for that unless fairly fast painted over. This stuff is said to allow iron fence to sit outside and not need more prep to use or paint but brush off the dust and bug shit. I'm afraid to use a tank sealer to settle wrong, or paint to flake off later. I'm afraid to leave it raw inside d/t moisture + acid formation slowly rotting the weak spots.

My crude figuring weighing imply Peel OIF is worth ~6 lb less to haul and lift.

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[splatt]

With the 2 sides welded on the oil tank will act as a structural member, stronger than the missing tube.

Barring the 4foot of poor quality welding , it will probably be a large distorted mess

 

[britbike220]

Barring the 4foot of poor quality welding , it will probably be a large distorted mess

Pretty bold statement considering you haven't seen the finished product.

 

[askdoctorday]

You know, the thing I enjoy about this forum is the free exchange of ideas, wisdom, and occasional genius. And then, as is the case with freedom of speech everywhere, some ignorant peckerwood loses all civility and feels like he needs to make his point with derision and insult and smug superiority. Jean is obviously a class act and is too refined to respond to such ignorance and bad manners. I am not that classy. So really, guys, if you are going to say something, have a little bit of manners and leave out the insulting and rude content. Just because you are God's gift to engineering and structural welding doesn't mean you need to be insulting. If you can't say it respectfully, don't say it at all.

Just my vote for maturity and civility. And an absence of peckerwoods.

 

[bwolfie]

You know, the thing I enjoy about this forum is the free exchange of ideas, wisdom, and occasional genius. And then, as is the case with freedom of speech everywhere, some ignorant peckerwood loses all civility and feels like he needs to make his point with derision and insult and smug superiority. Jean is obviously a class act and is too refined to respond to such ignorance and bad manners. I am not that classy. So really, guys, if you are going to say something, have a little bit of manners and leave out the insulting and rude content. Just because you are God's gift to engineering and structural welding doesn't mean you need to be insulting. If you can't say it respectfully, don't say it at all.

Just my vote for maturity and civility. And an absence of peckerwoods.

+100,000

 

[Hobot]

Ah Jean, that a pretty big saddle horn filler, have you welded your self in a corner to get a gas tank to fit? I used a smaller filler and moved IS tank back 3/4", to avoid real craftsman efforts like your doing.

 

[Jeandr]

Ah Jean, that a pretty big saddle horn filler, have you welded your self in a corner to get a gas tank to fit? I used a smaller filler and moved IS tank back 3/4", to avoid real craftsman efforts like your doing.

The tank I will use is fiberglass, so I will cut the front to fit... no worries.

Jean

 

[Hobot]

Hmm, ok, I will have to start a new thread on ways to cut and then fit screw fasteners in fibreglass fairing. I'm ole Fla boat guy so know the fabric/resin lay up mess. While tank is open, i"ve sure wanted one with a sight level glass.

 

[Jeandr]

While tank is open, i"ve sure wanted one with a sight level glass.

Go modern and add a gas gauge My speedo / tach will be an Acewell 3250 and it has a gas gauge, I just need to find the sender unit and install it while the tank is all cut open.

Jean

 

[britbike220]

i"ve sure wanted one with a sight level glass.

Like the 750ss duc's

 

[Hobot]

Neat dash Jean. I'm on look out for compact multi-function meter/display.

I tired to find the Ducati tank, but found sight glass sites instead, so excuse me while I shop.... thanks I think.

 

[prmurat]

Damn...I am just installing an Acewell on my Laverda SF and I did not know there was the possibility of a gas gauge!!
I chose a round one :

it was cheaper than to find the stock speedo & tacho...Small hole is for the key.
Philippe

 

[bwolfie]

Damn...I am just installing an Acewell on my Laverda SF and I did not know there was the possibility of a gas gauge!!
I chose a round one :

it was cheaper than to find the stock speedo & tacho...Small hole is for the key.
Philippe

Thanks a lot!!! Now i'n thinking about a fancy digital gauge. Just what my fire needed, more fuel.

 

[Jeandr]

Just got this bling from JS Motorsports

Connected the severed frame tubes

Put in a baffle

Started to closeup on the right side (only partly done)

Jean

 

[bwolfie]

It's looking good. Can't wait to see it finished.

 

[prmurat]

Pretty.... what's the use of the 2 small triangles on the flats?
Nice air filters...if only they were not coming with a garden hose "serflex" (hose clamps)... maybe a Japanese car/manifold/air filter clamp will look better?

I like the idea of the box under the main tube...will it not be possible to keep the tube in its integrality but drill a few holes on the bottom/sides and weld the box on it? it would, maybe, cool more the oil and stop oil moving around ? (say the one unable to hold a torch or a drill without hurting himself :roll: ).
Philippe