Speedo calibration

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Super! That's a great link for anyone interested in understanding these gauges.

For folks reading this thread, here's the picture of the back of the case with the hole drilled in it. Credit to 75JAZZ at http://www.triumphrat.net/classic-v...uilding-72-smiths-black-face-speedometer.html Thank you Kommando for sending this link.


Speedo calibration

Here's a link about dissembling the ssm speedo and rsm tach that shows removing the bezel with a German made, Knippex brand "mirror/glass breaking pliers" that you customize by grinding the ends. http://velobanjogent.blogspot.com/2009/12/item-on-smiths-ssm-and-rsm-speedometer.html
 
Have a good peer around before committing the drill, the Norton does not have the trip meter unlike the Triumph clock so assume the calibration screw may have changed position.
 
Found a "SSM 3001/09 1000" in the box of spares ready for when my Vaguelia's finally fail. Brass screw is in same place as in the other thread on Triumphrat.




Speedo calibration
 
Here's mine showing the adjustment screw through the bulb hole. You can just make out the slot for a flat blade screwdriver as a slightly more gold colored horizontal line. You can see the edge of the screw also is notched, like an old adjusting star on the drum brakes of older cars. Yours clearly shows a regular flat blade notch, and that the edge of the screw would only be accessible from the direction of the bulb hole. Folks who've posted that they adjusted it through the bulb hole must go in at an angle and turn it with flat blade on those edge notches. The photo from Triumphrat that I copied above shows the hole drilled slightly off to the left as you look at the photo. I can't see if that one has a slot on the top of the screw. I'm going to try to drill straight over the adjusting screw, which should put my new hole in a straight line from the bulb hole to the center hole where the cable attaches. Will put a magnet in the bulb hole to catch filings.

Here's mine:
Speedo calibration
 
CAUTION to those drilling a hole to access the calibration adjustment screw without disassembling the case : drill at a slow speed, using minimum pressure, and start with a very small diameter bit for a pilot hole. When I drilled my pilot hole, I didn't drill slowly enough and when the bit went through the steel casing, it pulled almost immediately down onto the top of the screw which is soft brass. so I dinged up the slot. There's enough of the slot left to turn it with my screwdriver, so it still works. But if I'd started with a bigger pilot hole bit, or been pushing harder on the bit, I would have drilled right through the top of the brass adjusting screw before I could say "wow, that was stupid!" (and other words not suitable for the internet).

Here's mine with the hole drilled. You can see the undamaged slot to the left that gives enough purchase to the screwdriver to turn it.


Speedo calibration

Now - 1) Remount it on the bike, 2) tape my phone to the handlebars and open the GPS speedo app, 3) road test and adjust roadside with screwdriver through the new hole, then 4) either tape over or insert a rubber plug to keep dirt from going in the new hole.
 
I just had a look at a SSM 3001/09 speedometer and the brass screw has a small dab of epoxy securing it to the alloy case.
Tamper resistant?
 
Changing the glass and bezel is an easy task. I've done it. (I bought my replacement glass and bezel from Eurotrash jamabalya) The new bezel was not as stiff as the original so crimping the edge over was easily done with a screw driver with the reassembled instrument face down on a rubbery mouse pad to pressure on the assembly while I crimped the new bezel into place. I assumed it would be a hard task but it was actually very easy to do.

As far as adjustments to the instruments go, I think the professional repair guys change some of the internals automatically because simply adjusting the old springs and magnets isn't going to give the best result. With new "guts" and they get accuracy and no needle bounce. Old guts, and you get what I got... accurate for about a year, now it seems like it's bouncing more and less accurate than when I did the repair. (this is just my theory as a layperson who has taken my tach apart and made a powerdrill set up to drive the instrument while I made the adjustments to the "old parts")
 
Success! Just road tested and adjusted (re-calibrated) the speedo on my 73 750 commando. (I assume the same process would work for re-calibrating the tachometer, substituting a known accurate electronic tach for the GPS speedometer phone app, and doing the adjustment on the center stand not on the road.)

NOTE: I highly recommend the book "Magnetic Speedometer Repair" by Graham Blighe http://www.improvingclassicmotorcycles.com/reviews.htm I ordered my copy through EBay.

To summarize all in one post, with great help from Kommando (thank you again!!), here's how I re-calibrated my Smiths ssm 3001/09 magnetic speedometer without disassembling it:

1) remove the speedometer from the bike
2) looking through the bulb hole, locate the brass calibration adjustment screw. It should be in a straight line with the center of the speedo where the cable attaches. You probably will only see the edge of the brass screw, which on mine was notched like an adjusting star on my old Ford truck's drum brakes.
3) CAREFULLY drill a hole in the outer case over that screw. I was not careful enough and you can see in photos that I dinged up the slot in the top of the brass screw, but it was still intact enough to work. (After posting this, a friend suggested using a dremel tool to make the hole, rather than a drill. If the hole you make is not perfectly centered over the screw, a dremel would be a good way to shape the hole to get better access to the brass screw.)
Whether you drill or Dremel, BE CAREFUL!! The top of the screw is not far below the case.
a) I put a magnet tool into the bulb hole to catch drill filings. It caught a lot of them. I also held the speedo upside down and drilled up so gravity would help filings fall away from the innards. After I was done drilling, I also held the speedo upside down and blew compressed air through the drilled hole which cleaned out a few more filings through the bulb hole. You don't want metal filings on the internal magnet.
b) start with a very small bit and drill a pilot hole to locate as accurately as possible over the center of the screw (I used a 3/32 bit for my pilot hole, but you could go smaller) DRILL VERY SLOWLY AND PATIENTLY, WITH MINIMAL PRESSURE. Use a sharp bit and let it take it's time cutting through the steel of the outer case. If you drill too fast or with too much pressure, when the bit breaks through the steel case, it will almost instantly drop onto the top of the soft brass screw and damage the slot in it. Wrapping tape around the drill bit to create a depth stop is highly advised.
c) drill out your pilot hole to the size of the head of the brass screw. (I used a 3/16 bit for my final hole, but it was tight and I had to grind off my small screwdriver so it would not bind on the hole. I'd use a 1/4 bit if I were doing it again.) AGAIN - DRILL VERY SLOWLY AND PATIENTLY, WITH MINIMAL PRESSURE. Use a sharp bit and let it take it's time cutting through the steel of the outer case. If you drill too fast or with too much pressure, when the bit breaks through the steel case, it will almost instantly drop onto the top of the soft brass screw and damage the slot in it.
Graham Blithe's book suggests obtaining a grommet in advance that you will use to plug the new access hole to prevent dirt getting into the internals through the access hole, then drilling the hole to the size of the grommet you have.
d) Once you have drilled the hole over the brass screw, blow out any remaining filings with compressed air, holding the speedo upside down so filings can fall out of the bulb and new access holes (see "a" above).
4) remount the speedo on the bike
5) install a GPS speedometer app on your smartphone. I have an android and used "GPS Speedometer" by cool niks. The free version worked great.
6) Try the speedometer app to see where and how the speed readouts are displayed, then secure your phone on the handlebars as close as possible to the bike's speedometer, making sure that you can access controls for the phone and app and see the app's readout. I used rubber bands, covered by painter's tape (so it would come off the phone easily) and then duct tape for strength.
7) Make sure the screwdriver you have will fit into the hole you drilled and easily turn the brass screw. Mine hit on the headlight mounting bracket and was a bit too fat at the blade for the small 3/16 hole I'd drilled, so I had to cut, grind and bend to make a custom screwdriver that would easily turn the brass screw. (I'd make a larger hole if I were doing it again.)
8 - road test and adjust. A straight higher speed road with a wide shoulder so you can stop well away from traffic when you adjust the brass screw is highly recommended. Do this at a time when there is as little traffic as possible. It is dangerous to be looking down at two speed readings while tracking traffic and other hazards! I brought a small flashlight and my old guy reading glasses so I could see the brass screw slot better.
9) If your speedo reads too fast, turn the brass screw counter-clockwise (as you look up from underneath the speedo). If your speedo reads too slow, turn the brass screw clockwise.
10) adjust, test, re-adjust until it reads the same as the GPS.
11) After adjusting it to match the GPS, I removed it and put a dab of black silicone gasket maker on the side of the brass screw as insurance against it shifting over time and vibrations.
I also scratched a line in the case marking the direction the slot of the brass screw is pointing with it (now) accurately calibrated as a reference for the future.
And I put some duct over the new hole to keep dirt out. I might replace that with a rubber plug, if I can find one to fit well. Or maybe some silicone gasket maker would plug the hole and be easily removed for later access.
12) reinstall. Happy and safe motoring!
 
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thats how i did mine i'm very pleased with the results ,i did this over 10 years ago with no problem at all
 
o0norton0o said:
Changing the glass and bezel is an easy task. I've done it. (I bought my replacement glass and bezel from Eurotrash jamabalya) The new bezel was not as stiff as the original so crimping the edge over was easily done with a screw driver with the reassembled instrument face down on a rubbery mouse pad to pressure on the assembly while I crimped the new bezel into place. I assumed it would be a hard task but it was actually very easy to do.

As far as adjustments to the instruments go, I think the professional repair guys change some of the internals automatically because simply adjusting the old springs and magnets isn't going to give the best result. With new "guts" and they get accuracy and no needle bounce. Old guts, and you get what I got... accurate for about a year, now it seems like it's bouncing more and less accurate than when I did the repair. (this is just my theory as a layperson who has taken my tach apart and made a powerdrill set up to drive the instrument while I made the adjustments to the "old parts")

If your needle bounces, that's not a calibration issue. For bouncing needle, I'd look at cable kinks, cable length, cable lube, etc... I think you can find good threads about bouncing needles. In my view, it's too bad you didn't drill a hole to access the adjustment screw while you had the case off. But since you're comfortable removing and reinstalling the glass and bezel, then if it needs to be re-calibrated again you can access the adjusting screw that way and adjust it on the bench. If you do get it apart again, I'd recommend drilling the hole in the case so you can access the adjustment screw in the future with the speedo on the bike. I feel more confident of accuracy when I look down at the speedo and it's showing exactly what the GPS speedometer app shows.

I suppose rebuilding with new spring and magnet, etc... is an option. The spring has to weaken over time, which I assume is why they provided a screw to re-calibrate it. And I figure the spring on mine is 44 years old and has probably weakened about all it's going to - at least for another long while. But I'll see how long it stays accurate. With the new hole in the case to access the adjusting screw without disassembling or removing the speedo - and the wonders of smartphone GPS speedometer apps, I can always re-calibrate as needed in the future.

Many roads are possible. Enjoy!
 
baz said:
thats how i did mine i'm very pleased with the results ,i did this over 10 years ago with no problem at all

Baz - glad to hear no problems after 10 years.
 
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