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Sensors TRIAL

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by richard-7, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. lcrken

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    Maybe in the latest edition, which I have on back order from the dealer, but not in the early one I have. Unless I'm just missing it. I'll probably leave it on. I'm not really opposed to emissions stuff unless it affects performance or reliability.

    Ken
     
  2. lcrken

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    Just getting ready for a ride, so I thought I'd drain the oil from the air box. I haven't done that before, because I thought the plug was missing, but it's not. I was looking at the wrong hose. So I drained it overnight. That's 32 oz. (US) in the yogurt tub!. If it hasn't been drained previously, that would be for 461 miles total since new. And the oil is still above the top mark on the original dip stick. I'm pretty sure someone overfilled it. Probably checked it without running the engine and thought it was low.

    461 Mile Oil Drain 1200.jpg

    On the good news side, just changing the coil made a huge difference in how easily it starts when cold. Starts on the first try and idles perfect! Amazing how much difference that change makes.

    Ken
     
  3. BritTwit

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    An undocumented feature on 961's, kind of like a remote oil supply.
    In case the level is low in the tank;
    just crack the tap on the airbox and take out a pint or two for the tank.:D
     
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  4. TonyA

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    Hi , Your seat looks like it has more padding then mine. Has anyone else noticed this ?
     
  5. gchoppin

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    Yes. More padding for sure.
     
  6. Fast Eddie

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    Richard,

    Would it be possible for you to write a sensor, coil, plug lead manual? I realise that some of the sensors are covered in other manuals, and in various threads on here, but, someone buying a 961 for the first time would be greatly assisted in having one manual that tells whole sensor, coil, plug lead, upgrade process.

    What say you sir?
     
  7. richard-7

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    I will. Its been incredibly busy for me lately and ive been promising this to a few people. I will definitely do it. Give me a little time. Keep asking. I made a note.
     
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  8. Britfan60

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    There is a coil and lead manual, Nigel. Just not sensors. The coils were so easy, even a spazz like me managed. Thanks again, Richard.
     
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  9. lcrken

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    Interesting. I just looked at some old Sport pictures from the Norton web site, and the seat on mine does look a bit fatter and more rounded. I think that's the way it came, but I'll ask the PO if he had it changed.

    Ken
     
  10. Fast Eddie

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    I suspect you may be comparing single seats with dual seats. The single seaters look quite a bit more slender and simpler styled IMHO. I much prefer them, that's why I wanted mine to be a single seater, but the factory don't supply them anymore.
     
  11. BritTwit

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    Nigel,

    You're actually better off with the dual seat.
    There is a nice little pocket of space beneath the seat on the dual seat model.
    It's the perfect size for a Power Commander installation.
    Solo seat doesn't have that space.:(
     
  12. lcrken

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    Nope. I was looking at these pictures of a 961 Sport with the dual seat, just like mine.

    6G5A5076.jpg 6G5A5088.jpg

    Ken
     
  13. Fast Eddie

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    Ok, I see the difference now!
     
  14. gchoppin

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    Took my first extended ride after the Bosch sensor & coil / iridium plus and ONE07 wires. Wasn't sure about the red wires on a red scoot but it acrually looks good. Runs much better. One thing is noticeably different with cold starts now. It starts better without touching the throttle prior to start. Not sure what I did though regarding the cam sensor install. Was stopped at a traffic light about 15 miles into the ride and noticed a puff of smoke. Looked around the motor but didn't see anything while stopped. A few miles later a stopped again and saw oil dripping from the front of the motor. My assumption was later verified that the cam sensor was leaking. Headed home while keeping a close eye on my oil light which newer activated. Removed the sensor but could not see or determine what I did wrong. I reinstall with the O-ring from the OEM sensor. It only had 549 miles of use and never leaked so lm going to give it a chance for a second life. The bike was a mess. Lost a quart of oil in 40 miles.
     
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  15. Britfan60

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    Oh crap. I just changed my crank sensor and didn't notice an O ring. Haven't ridden it yet. Just ran it for a few minutes. No leak. Well, only one screw. sigh
     
  16. richard-7

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    Its interesting there wasn’t as o-ring on the new sensor. Good to note to keep an eye out for. There are starters for wet and dry conditions and we,ve seen many Norton starters without the o-ring too. Which means someone ordered the wrong ones. Which equates to oil on top of the engine cases.

    These suppliers deal such high volume they could care less about if a few seals are missing out of 10 million units.
     
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  17. BritTwit

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    Richard,

    Are the o-rings on the old replaced units reusable, at least until new ones are sourced?
     
  18. richard-7

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    Definitely!
     
  19. Britfan60

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    I'm guessing it will only blow out with pressure, not leak out? So far, dry. I let the bike idle for a few minutes. I still have the old part, but I'm pretty sure I inspected both and did not notice an O ring.
     
  20. TonyA

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