PROBLEM WITH SELLER ON CYCLE TRADER SCAM???

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BEWARE...CYCLE TRADER NORTON AD FIRST "PREMIUM LISTING" top of page.... 1974-850 red color, handlebar end mirrors in __CAMARILLA, CA.__

Attempted to buy this bike from this fellow and all he ever pushed for was his money, like yesterday! We agreed on a price, with only a small reduction toward shipping, almost paying his full asking price. I just got a little suspicious with the hot, hot pants and black finger nail polish (look carefully in the chrome). Finally feeling something was not right about the deal...I asked with me being in Florida, if we could use an escrow service to handle the paperwork right there in Camarilla. His choice of escrow company, totally at my expense. He immediately agrees and states he will go to escrow service in the morning, and email me the details in the morning. At midnight I get an email from him saying: "Steve...the bike is no longer on the market, thanks for your interest." So one minute all is hunky-dory and a few hours later, it is not. I'll let you fellows read between the lines.

Have any of you heard of or seen this particular bike before? I seem to remember seeing one like this this about a year ago, and figured it was just changing hands again. Now I'm not so sure. The fellows name is PAUL ENGLISH. This guy cost me some serious lost money as I went ahead (after he agreed very happily to the escrow account) and withdrew the funds from my early IRA, and now must pay taxes and a penalty on this money as well.
 
He'll probably be in Nigeria or the Balkans or some village in some remote republic.
Don't waste any more money chasing them, but good of you to alert others.

At least you didn't send them your Range Rover as part payment, as some have done in other scams !
I'm still waiting for my millions in diamonds from that lost diamond mine.
Although nine in one week seems like a lot of lost diamond mines...
 
I'd never let the seller pick the escrow service as they are easy to counterfeit by setting up a web page.
 
Sounds like horse trading 101, pen-pal for days, another buyer comes along, close by, views bike, plunks cash. Game over. Had you placed a deposit?
 
SnortenNorten said:
BEWARE...CYCLE TRADER NORTON AD FIRST "PREMIUM LISTING" top of page.... 1974-850 red color, handlebar end mirrors in __CAMARILLA, CA.__

Attempted to buy this bike from this fellow and all he ever pushed for was his money, like yesterday! We agreed on a price, with only a small reduction toward shipping, almost paying his full asking price. I just got a little suspicious with the hot, hot pants and black finger nail polish (look carefully in the chrome). Finally feeling something was not right about the deal...I asked with me being in Florida, if we could use an escrow service to handle the paperwork right there in Camarilla. His choice of escrow company, totally at my expense. He immediately agrees and states he will go to escrow service in the morning, and email me the details in the morning. At midnight I get an email from him saying: "Steve...the bike is no longer on the market, thanks for your interest." So one minute all is hunky-dory and a few hours later, it is not. I'll let you fellows read between the lines.

Have any of you heard of or seen this particular bike before? I seem to remember seeing one like this this about a year ago, and figured it was just changing hands again. Now I'm not so sure. The fellows name is PAUL ENGLISH. This guy cost me some serious lost money as I went ahead (after he agreed very happily to the escrow account) and withdrew the funds from my early IRA, and now must pay taxes and a penalty on this money as well.
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If you were not comfortable with the deal it was probably in your best interest just to pass on it. There are always other fish in the sea. Just hold on to your money until something else comes along. Its always best to physically inspect the bike before you agree on any kind of price anyway. Patients is the name of the game when searching for just the right bike!
 
I recently sold my Commando. I had an interested party from another english speaking country, who made a very generous offer. I accepted and requested a sizable down payment. The request for a deposit initiated unending requests for photos, documents, etc., to which I complied. Eventually, he said he was having difficulty finding a shipping agent. This is in a country that currently has many Nortons shipped to it. In the meantime I got a local offer for the bike, which I accepted and sold to. I informed the interested buyer from overseas that I had sold the bike and explained to him since he had never sent a deposit I felt no obligation to hold the bike for him. He then told me the reason he didn't send me a deposit was he smelled a rat. Evidently, if he was even a legitimate buyer which I doubt, he wanted to receive the bike before he paid for it. Good luck with that. I believe he visits this site. Hope he sees this post.
 
Rohan said:
He'll probably be in Nigeria or the Balkans or some village in some remote republic.
Don't waste any more money chasing them, but good of you to alert others.
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What are you basing this prejudiced shite on?
 
Hmmm, Says mileage is 17,500 in the text of ad but shows 24,000+ on odometer...this looks questionable from the get go.
 
Al-otment said:
What are you basing this prejudiced shite on?
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Reality.

And the past 100 scams, phishing expeditions, and all the silly/ridiculous/obvious around....
Perhaps you haven't figured out yet how to determine the ultimate source of emails from the email header ??
I'm still waiting for my diamonds though...
 
Rohan said:
Al-otment said:
What are you basing this prejudiced shite on?
Click to expand...

Reality.

And the past 100 scams, phishing expeditions, and all the silly/ridiculous/obvious around....
Perhaps you haven't figured out yet how to determine the ultimate source of emails from the email header ??
I'm still waiting for my diamonds though...
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Diamonds? I was promised gold bars :D
 
SnortenNorten said:
BEWARE...CYCLE TRADER NORTON AD FIRST "PREMIUM LISTING" top of page.... 1974-850 red color, handlebar end mirrors in __CAMARILLA, CA.__

Attempted to buy this bike from this fellow and all he ever pushed for was his money, like yesterday! We agreed on a price, with only a small reduction toward shipping, almost paying his full asking price. I just got a little suspicious with the hot, hot pants and black finger nail polish (look carefully in the chrome). Finally feeling something was not right about the deal...I asked with me being in Florida, if we could use an escrow service to handle the paperwork right there in Camarilla. His choice of escrow company, totally at my expense. He immediately agrees and states he will go to escrow service in the morning, and email me the details in the morning. At midnight I get an email from him saying: "Steve...the bike is no longer on the market, thanks for your interest." So one minute all is hunky-dory and a few hours later, it is not. I'll let you fellows read between the lines.

Have any of you heard of or seen this particular bike before? I seem to remember seeing one like this this about a year ago, and figured it was just changing hands again. Now I'm not so sure. The fellows name is PAUL ENGLISH. This guy cost me some serious lost money as I went ahead (after he agreed very happily to the escrow account) and withdrew the funds from my early IRA, and now must pay taxes and a penalty on this money as well.
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Hmmmm... First post, ALL CAPS, bashing a seller, BY NAME.... about a PERCEIVED issue, no money lost... maybe relax, have a pint, re-think the scope? :oops:
 
It's always possible that the seller just decided he didn't want the hassle of finding and dealing with an escrow agency, and then again, maybe you're right, and it's not legit. The ad appears to still be up, so, if you're really interested, let me know. I'm only 6 miles of so from Camarillo, and I could take a look at it for you.

Ken
 
Rohan said:
Al-otment said:
What are you basing this prejudiced shite on?
Click to expand...

Reality.

And the past 100 scams, phishing expeditions, and all the silly/ridiculous/obvious around....
Perhaps you haven't figured out yet how to determine the ultimate source of emails from the email header ??
I'm still waiting for my diamonds though...
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Read the above points others have made - nothing evens happened. No money lost - nothing. Yet you've jumped to conclusions giving race and geography as reasons - very intelligent. I've only ever been ripped off by white, city dwelling, Anglo-Saxons living in a country with an existing monarchy. Your talking shite.
 
http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/1974 ... -111486205

PROBLEM WITH SELLER ON CYCLE TRADER SCAM???
 
Al-otment is obviously not familiar with the Nigerians scams.
(which are as old as the internet itself).

Ya know....... whenever a deal like that falls through for me, I just chalk it up as not meant to be and move on.
 
Surely there is a forum member close by the seller who could check the bike out for any interested purchasers.

The escrow scam is an old one, look on craigslist and you'll find bikes, cars, etc offered at great deals. The seller will tell you he's off shore, working on an oil rig or out of the country and needs to sell the item. You send the money to the "escrow" account, the item will be shipped and you can inspect it for several days and if you don't like it, the shipping company will pick it up and return your money from the "escrow" account. All safe and up front...

I got a great deal on a bridge if anyone is interested...
 
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