Mid-Ohio race did not go well

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Snorton74 said:

Fullauto said:

Well Doug,
I was thinking about approaching you anyway but that is such a hard luck story that I would like to be the first to help you.

I would like to donate a Fullauto Technologies head to you. Please contact me to organise delivery.

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Although generous of you, there's probably someone out there with less money who could use one more.

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Thank you for your mean spirited comment. Well, I'm just about to head out nightclubbing in my Ferrari Enzo ('91 VW transporter). Oh sorry. I mean go to bed early to get up in the morning to go to work in my dull, dreary boring job so my family can eat. How many homeless people have you taken in for a meal this week?

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You mean you are not one of the Norton parts suppliers out there cashing in on the popularity of classic motorcycles?

Don't give up the day job......mine funded me buying one of your heads, just about, and I am happy with the fact that you choose someone who can properly promote your products as a recipient of what is in effect sponsorship. It is in your gift and it makes sense all round.

But, if you need someone to trial the barrels.... :wink:

Although generous of you, there's probably someone out there with less money who could use one more.

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If there is another starving artist on this forum with a $10,000 hole in his wallet, please point him out!

First off sorry about the motor and glad you walked away from the incident. When you run stuff on the edge you are bound to have catastrophic failures. That's racing. When I was a crew chief on a race car team we would get free stuff all the time it is called sponsorship. The generous offer of a new head is some of the best advertising he can do. I am sure the recipient will run a sticker or two on his bike maybe even a patch on the drivers suit and one for each of the crew. Not to mention tell everybody he meets in the paddock. For one to throw a wet blanket on the offer by determining that one is more worthy than another is just plain wrong. I think an apology is in order.

Fullauto said:

Snorton74 said:

Fullauto said:

Well Doug,
I was thinking about approaching you anyway but that is such a hard luck story that I would like to be the first to help you.

I would like to donate a Fullauto Technologies head to you. Please contact me to organise delivery.

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Although generous of you, there's probably someone out there with less money who could use one more.

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Thank you for your mean spirited comment. Well, I'm just about to head out nightclubbing in my Ferrari Enzo ('91 VW transporter). Oh sorry. I mean go to bed early to get up in the morning to go to work in my dull, dreary boring job so my family can eat. How many homeless people have you taken in for a meal this week?

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I'm just trying to square your defense of their price to regular folks, with donating one to someone who obviously can afford one.

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[quote="Snorton74Although generous of you, there's probably someone out there with less money who could use one more.

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Thank you for your mean spirited comment. Well, I'm just about to head out nightclubbing in my Ferrari Enzo ('91 VW transporter). Oh sorry. I mean go to bed early to get up in the morning to go to work in my dull, dreary boring job so my family can eat. How many homeless people have you taken in for a meal this week?

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I'm just trying to square your defense of their price to regular folks, with donating one to someone who obviously can afford one.[/quote]


"My defense of their price?"

They cost what they have to cost. I am one of those "regular people". I've been at this for five years without recouping my costs and I get a lot of shit from people like you about pricing. Why don't YOU get off your arse or ass if you like and do something for the Norton community. Like open a soup kitchen for starving Norton owners. I'm not rich and I'll damn well give one of MY Fullauto Technologies heads to whomever I damn well please. There's nothing in it for me. No tax breaks. Just the satisfaction of doing something for somebody talented who's had a tough break.

In summary, f@#k you.

Snorton74...

IF...you held one in your hands you would know they defend their price.....and value....all on your own.

And you would recognise that an investment like this on the part of any supplier has real costs and needs faith...

Try also picking up as examples Maney cases and barrels, Carrillo rods of any variety etc. etc. it is the same.....

Specialist kit that is designed to take a lot of abuse....

I know I bought the best head currently available, in fact the only one for a Commando!, and that there is no way I could justify asking a supplier to give me something like that just because I have less cash than another racer with a proven track record, or that that racer is just someone that the supplier admires, as the man said, it is completely up to him.

Go look at other classic bikes and see what newly manufactured parts cost....its a realistic price. Jeezus I even managed to justify it to my wife!

If you don't want to pay the price of a Fullauto, don't, its your choice, but isn't it strange that your original comment infers you would take one if offered! And your second comment sort of infers that people like me are fools for paying the price. Or did I misunderstand?

The start of this thread was a report of Doug's bad luck, then we had news of his improving luck, courtesy of some generosity, lets all hope he gets some more and gets his Norton back on track....I am working on mine, and as your tag line infers, I am self supported, its my choice to do it. I would love someone to help me, but I don't expect it, and my ability does not justify it.

Good thing you had that skid plate to catch all the broken pieces.
JB Weld can fix that.

As bad as this is to you, and I feel your pain, thanx for sharing it with us.
Hats off to FullAuto. Now wheres Maney and Carillo?

Hey Doug,

Sorry, sorry, sorry! Keep up the good work. Glad you are ok.

Cheers-- Jerry

Ouch! That had to hurt.

Probably not the first engine you've had blow up under you, but maybe the most spectacular. To misquote someone or other, if you're not blowing up engines, you're not trying hard enough.

Try to ignore the mean spirited remarks. Most of us understand the sacrifices racers have to make to pay for a sport they love, but can't really afford. Out of hundreds of racers I've known, there have been only a handful that were wealthy enough to support their habit without financial pain.

More kudos to Ken at Fullauto. That's a very generous offer.

Ken

You guy miss the big picture, did you notice how well the belly pan worked at catching all those engine parts all British bikes should have left the factory with one of those

SteveA said:

You mean you are not one of the Norton parts suppliers out there cashing in on the popularity of classic motorcycles?

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Don't be naive - unless you can supply me with details of the registered charity that any one of these retail outlets are generating money for then I think you'll find the number one priority they are in the classic bike market is to improve their own bank balance. Sponsoring an apparently well known (at least on these pages) racer by donating a head (possible cost to the supplier I'm guessing at £500) is good value for money in advertising alone.

Tell me, what's the bill for your latest engine rebuild so far?

Hi, keep on nortonning, and hands up to fullauto........that's a real pleasure to see that , in our world!

I tend to shop for new parts after those from L.A.F. Inc. = Life Ain't Fair. Doug could of broke his neck & spine too, folded frame and forks up while taking out a few others and he-they know it so can't apply normal logic to those kicking up their Achilles heels. Most impressive evidence to me that 3 point backed up isolastic cushioned frame is as good as it gets. A sense of what let go in the custom rods might be entertainingly educational. I've had some out board motor cases and lower units and roadholder fork sliders welded after total fractured apart so likely these cases would hold next time as long as other items do too. I ponder the possibility that crank flex put a tip in the journals shells clearance that wedge-levered the rod apart so better crank if possible would be more expensive to get back in saddle with less groin/teeth tension winding it out in the opens. Btw all scriptures says the Devil has dominion on this planet so innately full of injured suffering people, so many even the Christ fella gave up trying to save them all with personal hands on miracles. What would Burt Munroe do?

Snorton74 said:

Fullauto said:

Well Doug,
I was thinking about approaching you anyway but that is such a hard luck story that I would like to be the first to help you.

I would like to donate a Fullauto Technologies head to you. Please contact me to organise delivery.

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Although generous of you, there's probably someone out there with less money who could use one more.

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WTF Snorton? Poor form I say. Try to appreciate the good being done here.

An excellent save from a catastrophic failure and a grand example of fellow biker support. No downside.

Doug,
That is a tough break to see but I am glad you are ok and fit to race again. Nice move by Fullauto. He is an ok guy in my books. 8) When your down and out there is a kindred Nortoneer to pick you up brush off the dust and say it just a little bump in the road of life... Keep calm and carry on.
Cheers,
Thomas
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Guido said:

Good thing you had that skid plate to catch all the broken pieces.
JB Weld can fix that.

As bad as this is to you, and I feel your pain, thanx for sharing it with us.
Hats off to FullAuto. Now wheres Maney and Carillo?

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I had to laugh when I read that. My first thought was for Doug to send the cases to Hobot cause he's probably got some JB weld that would fix that. :mrgreen:
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Doug
Hats off too you sir. You must have titanium nuts to get back on after such an escape.
Fullauto, hats off to you too sir. You're a gentleman. Helping someone out because you can. Again, well done.
This is a good thing folks. Don't kill it. It was kind of Doug to share and kind of ken to help. It should be acknowledged not analysed and demeaned.

Well done fellas

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I thought skid plates were to keep things out, not in.

Fullauto said:

I thought skid plates were to keep things out, not in.

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Well that kind sir is all about perspective!!!!