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Asians do live there.
I live in Canada, not an Asian Country either, but there are many Asian faces here.
If you did get one that's built in Thailand, I guess it's a very rare model according to Triumph.

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I think you both might be right Glen / Scott.

Triumph have long been masters of vagary when it comes to clarity over models not produced in the U.K (which, without wanting to start another fight, I am convinced is deliberate).

Most of the blurb that came out recently said something along the lines of:
“The only models that will still be built at the Hinckley factory eventually will be the high-end Triumph Factory Custom motorcycles and other special edition builds”.

But... I’m not aware that they ever said ALL TFC bikes will be built at Hinckley. So I would suggest they’re built in both locations.
 

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I think you both might be right Glen / Scott.

Triumph have long been masters of vagary when it comes to clarity over models not produced in the U.K (which, without wanting to start another fight, I am convinced is deliberate).

Most of the blurb that came out recently said something along the lines of:
“The only models that will still be built at the Hinckley factory eventually will be the high-end Triumph Factory Custom motorcycles and other special edition builds”.

But... I’m not aware that they ever said ALL TFC bikes will be built at Hinckley. So I would suggest they’re built in both locations.
From what I seen the only models built in the UK for the time being are they Rocket 3 and the Daytona moto2. That’s it.
 

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Asians do live there.
I live in Canada, not an Asian Country either, but there are many Asian faces here.
If you did get one that's built in Thailand, I guess it's a very rare model according to Triumph.

Glen
I don’t mean some of the faces in the book are Asian. I mean “ALL” the faces in the book are Asian.
Even if the TFC bikes are assembled in the UK, nearly all of the bikes parts are made outside the UK. So where exactly is Triumph made?
I’m gonna guess not in the UK. But in Thailand.
 
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I don’t mean some of the faces in the book are Asian. I mean “ALL” the faces in the book are Asian.
Even if the TFC bikes are assembled in the UK, nearly all of the bikes parts are made outside the UK. So where exactly is Triumph made?
I’m gonna guess not in the UK. But in Thailand.
It should say where it's assembled somewhere on the bike.
Pretty much any complex machine today uses components from all over the world. My USAJohn Deere tractor assembled in Dubuque, Iowa came with an engine that was manufactured in a John Deere plant in France. The main ID tag for the tractor states that it is made in the USA.
My Mannheim Germany built John Deere also has a French engine and that French engine itself has components from all over the world.

My assembled in China Everlast welder has components marked "Made in Germany" and "Made in Italy" but the label on the machine states that it was made in China. So main assembly = Country of Origin.

About 1/3 of Triumphs work force is in the UK so they need to be doing/ making something to add value.
I believe all design and engineering is done in the UK.
For me ( Thrux r) it couldn't be better- UK styling and design, which is the best, and Asian assembly for reliability.
I should add that my Hinckley assembled Daytona has also been completely reliable. The fit and finish of the Daytona is just a tad off the Thai built Thruxton, which is perfect.


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I believe all design and engineering is done in the UK.
For me ( Thrux r) it couldn't be better- UK styling and design, which is the best, and Asian assembly for reliability.

Glen

I agree, the concept, design and engineering are all done in the UK.
The bikes are developed to incorporate classic design concepts that attract fans of classic britbikes.
I think the aesthetics of the modern classic Thaiumphs are excellent, as is the reliability.
It would be wonderful if all manufacturing were perform in the UK, but today it's just not economically possible.
 

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It should say where it's assembled somewhere on the bike.
Pretty much any complex machine today uses components from all over the world. My USAJohn Deere tractor assembled in Dubuque, Iowa came with an engine that was manufactured in a John Deere plant in France. The main ID tag for the tractor states that it is made in the USA.
My Mannheim Germany built John Deere also has a French engine and that French engine itself has components from all over the world.

My assembled in China Everlast welder has components marked "Made in Germany" and "Made in Italy" but the label on the machine states that it was made in China. So main assembly = Country of Origin.

About 1/3 of Triumphs work force is in the UK so they need to be doing/ making something to add value.
I believe all design and engineering is done in the UK.
For me ( Thrux r) it couldn't be better- UK styling and design, which is the best, and Asian assembly for reliability.
I should add that my Hinckley assembled Daytona has also been completely reliable. The fit and finish of the Daytona is just a tad off the Thai built Thruxton, which is perfect.


Glen
I agree on that. I also have a John Deere tractor and I know it’s USA built with a yanmar diesel. I’ll check the build on my TFC. But I’ll bet it’s not gonna say UK.
 
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Hinckley Triumphs have generally had a little "F" sticker (for factory) on them somewhere, usually on the headstock but sometimes under the seat or tank. F1 or F2 for Hinckley built or F3, F4, F5 for Thailand.
My 2008 Bonneville Scrambler has F2 on the headstock, indicating it is one of the last British built Bonnevilles. That was one of the reasons why I bought it, as I had already had good experience with Hinckley Triumph. (In 1992 I decided to have a change from Japanese machines and put my faith in the new company by buying one of the first Tridents - it was a superb machine.)
The sticker however just seems to denote assembly, as I have yet to find anything on the Bonneville stamped "made in UK". Certainly the rusty wheel rims are made by a Thai company! (earlier Bonneville rims are made in Birmingham I believe).
 
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Bound to happen thanks to SG's business deals.

Things that are not bad:
1. Fairing is a nice touch, although a small bikini job would be better.
2. Looks like a different tank, not a nice as the original, but might be metal not plastic?
3. No badging that says Norton Commando that I can see. We can all say it's not a real Norton:D

By selling the engine manufacturing rights in January 2020, it seems clear to me SG was planning to axe the 961 from Norton's model line-up within a short time. Seeing TVS doing it now is no surprise to me.

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A lot of angry comments made and I agree with them! It looks like Stuart Fillingham's concerns are correct.
The article is a little out of date however. Earlier this year Triumph announced that Speed Triples, Tigers and all volume models are to be made in Thailand.
Compare this to Moto Guzzi. Still making bikes in the same place in Italy since 1921. When there was talk about moving production to somewhere else there was hell on and the company backed down - and this was to somewhere else in Italy!
 

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A lot of angry comments made and I agree with them! It looks like Stuart Fillingham's concerns are correct.
The article is a little out of date however. Earlier this year Triumph announced that Speed Triples, Tigers and all volume models are to be made in Thailand.
Compare this to Moto Guzzi. Still making bikes in the same place in Italy since 1921. When there was talk about moving production to somewhere else there was hell on and the company backed down - and this was to somewhere else in Italy!
Very well then.
We have to start a campaign to keep Triumph production in the UK.
How about a T Shirt that sends a message?
I found this one but couldn't find one with "If it isn't British built, it's crap".
On the back it could say "If you can read this, the bitch fell off."

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Very well then.
We have to start a campaign to keep Triumph production in the UK.
How about a T Shirt that sends a message?
I found this one but couldn't find one with "If it isn't British built, it's crap".
On the back it could say "If you can read this, the bitch fell off."

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Well firstly it's a bit late for that, most production has already gone! The protests at Moto Guzzi were from the workers themselves - not many of those left at Triumph, so that wouldn't work!
Secondly you'd have to be an idiot to agree with the sentiment "If it isn't British built, it's crap".
Triumph just needs to be honest, instead of mercilessly exploiting its British heritage for all it's worth.
As one of the comments stated (albeit tongue-in-cheek I'm sure) - if there's no problem with made in Thailand why not put a Thai flag on the engine cases?
 

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As one of the comments stated (albeit tongue-in-cheek I'm sure) - if there's no problem with made in Thailand why not put a Thai flag on the engine cases?

How about "Designed in Britain" below the Triumph insignia?
Or "Not made in a Communist country."
 
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And this quote directly from Triumph earlier this year

Triumph’s Hinckley factory will have a new bespoke assembly line.
"To facilitate the more efficient production of specialist prototype bikes and the continued manufacturing of high-end bespoke motorcycles such as the Triumph Factory Custom (TFC) bikes,” said
Triumph Motorcycles
High end bespoke......like the 961? Earlier this year means " before covid 19 drove in the final nail...."
 
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