Boyer Electronic ignition

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Comparing a Lucas Maggie to a JH Maggie are 2 different units the JH is so simple compared to the Lucas unit, I have a Compertion Lucas Maggie on my Dommie I am building and if it fails a JH will be put on it without even thinking about it.

Ashley
 
acotrel said:
I went race meetings and had problems with the magneto which cost me my entry fees and travel expenses as well as the cost of a rebuild of the unit. Magnetos are good if you have somebody who knows what they are doing with them when they replace the capacitors, which are often inside the windings. I had more success with the Lucas SR industrial magneto than with the Wader type.

The only thing I dislike about the Boyer is the battery situation. I run total loss and maintaining the battery is a pain, when you don't ride very often.
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With the JH Maggie everything is under the front cover the capacitor, coil and point and everything is easy to get to without touching the windings, they are so simple to work on, I have all my timing marks set up inside my old points cover so when I need to do any work on my Maggie I set the bike up on it timing marks pull the JH off the bike and work on it on the bench then when finish I just put the Maggie back on where I have marked everything and the bike is ready to fire without having to retime it, but so far haven't needed to work on it.

Ashley
 
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I am probably silly in the head. But with my bike, I hate even having any Japanese parts on it. A Joe Hunt magneto would stick-out like dog's balls. With our historic racing, the thing I hate the most about it, is there is usually no attempt whatsoever to make the bikes look authentic. They all comply with the rules, but so many of them look so wrong. My problem is that I lived back when history was being made and I can remember what the bikes looked like. The main thing about historic racing is the nostalgia kick. For myself - I would much rather ride in modern races against the same type of bike as my own. The trouble is that these days, most guys do not race air-cooled twin cylinder four strokes. In one of our series, there were a couple of guys who were doing well with KTM V twins.
I never try to make my bike become anything other than what it is. If it does well, it does it on it's own merits.
 
My commando came with a wassel which was rock solid (3 years) until I removed it to take primary of to adjust cam chain. I assumed that the points orifice in the timing cover had been machined to fit the wassel pick up by the previous owner but it hadn't... I refitted the pickup but it couldn't have been seated quite right as one of the magnets got knocked off.... I decided not to machine the cover to fit a new wassel pick up so went for a new pazon system. Once the pazon was fitted I had tick over problems from the start, eventually to rule out the 'new' pazon unit I removed it from the commando and fitted it to my Triton which had been running great, the Triton immediately had the same tick over issue as the commando. I sent the unit back to pazon and they tested it and found nothing wrong.. they sent me a new unit anyway. I fitted it and it's ok but will get primary machined and fit a wassel soon as have no confidence in the pazon. Wish they had found something wrong with it when tested as intermittent electrical faults are a nightmare...
 
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Matt750 said:
My commando came with a wassel which was rock solid until I removed it to take primary of to adjust cam chain. I assumed that the points orifice in the timing cover had been machined to fit the wassel by the previous owner but it hadn't... I refitted it but couldn't have been seated quite right as one of the magnets got knocked off.... I decided not to machine the cover and fit a new wassel pick up so went for a new pazon unit. Once pazon fitted I had tick over problems from the start, I eventually took it off the commando and fitted it to my Triton which had been running great, the Triton developed the same tick over issue with the pazon as the commando. I sent it back to pazon and they tested it and found nothing wrong.. they sent me a new unit anyway. I fitted it and it's ok but will get primary machined and fit a wassel soon as no confidence in the pazon. Wish they had found something wrong with it what tested as intermittent electrical faults are a nightmare...
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I think you must mean timing cover not primary cover
 
acotrel said:
I am probably silly in the head. But with my bike, I hate even having any Japanese parts on it. A Joe Hunt magneto would stick-out like dog's balls.
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Well I don't race my Norton so have no problems with the JH sticking out and its not Japanese made, I am a good road rider I follow the road rules and speed limits all the time I never race my mates when out and about as I have nothing to prove and I never push my bikes to their limits in the tight twisties, shittttt I talk some crap, off course I do all those things and number one rule is to stay upright, if I worried about my JH all the time I would have never fitted it same as if I thought any other ignition system was going to fail when out and about I would just stay home and look at my bikes.
As for the OP if I ever went the EI way again I wouldn't hesitate to run a Boyar as my old one never let me down in over 30 years, only old and dying batteries done that and as for KB if they are set up and tuned right they don't KB I think mine only done that twice in 30 years and that was trying to kick it on the wrong compression stroke.

Ashley
 
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One of the reasons, I would never own a road-going Commando, is I could never do it justice. Ken ( Fullauto) came to see me last year. He was riding a near standard Commando which was absolutely beautiful. I think that if you own one of those, it really needs to be nut and bolt perfect - otherwise you are letting the side down. I have seen a few Commandos which have been super-good and they make me feel happy. They are oldies but goodies. Modern motorcycles don't do much for me. I like Ducatis, but I also like Ferraris - same deal - send the motor back to Modena to get it fixed ?
 
"I like Ducatis, but I also like Ferraris - same deal - send the motor back to Modena to get it fixed ?"

I wonder if anyone in the Modena factory knows anything about working on a 1973 Ferrari...or an '83, or a '93 or even an '03? ;)
 
I was at a friend's garage with my wife. One of his customers had just bought a Ferrari Trans-America at Shannon's Auctions. We decided to start it. My wife did not know the accelerator was in the middle. After we sorted her out and had a giggle at her expense, the car made a very lovely noise.
 
The place I took my car for servicing last month had a Testarossa engine on the bench being fixed. It's just an engine with a few more pistons than most.
 
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So you set the maximum advance to line up with the timimg you want when the system is at its upper limit.
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If you do that, don't you also have to strobe it at idle to make sure it's not already over advanced?

Cheers,

cliffa.
 
pommie john said:
The place I took my car for servicing last month had a Testarossa engine on the bench being fixed. It's just an engine with a few more pistons than most.
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A month ago my mate and I were going out for a drive in our "Classic Cars" I have a '77 MG-B and he has a '94 348 Ferrari. 30 minutes before we were due to meet I got a text "Bring some jump leads to my place" Oh how I laughed and ridiculed him - wish I'd taken a picture. But what a car though.

(the MG I mean obviously)
 
My Vape-Wassel EI fit my 74 MKII 850 timing cover just fine when I swapped out the oem points plate two yrs ago. No drama from it since.
 
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