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Airbox drain pipe!

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by der, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. TonyA

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    I absolutely love my bike! I Ride mine every day that isn't raining to work 25minutes and home 45min-1hr (I always take a longer route home) All B roads and once in a while HWY, hardly any traffic, decent enough bends as I go along the outskirts of town. It handles amazing, runs fantastic and looks and sounds bad ass. I agree that there are a few silly issues but they are easily sorted, just see my manuals (head torque, ring gear, Trans vent) and if you are not mechanically inclined or have a dealer 3,000 miles away, it may not be the bike for you. But WHAT A MACHINE!!!!

    Hello Richard , Thanks for all your input and help. Its amazing to think about how much better this bike will be with more refinement and development. I love my bike too.
     
  2. AJM356

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    Hi new to the forum but read with interest about the airbox oil drain. I have 961 SE 187 and have the same issue but rather than wasting time trying to prevent it I put it to good use and use it as a rear chain oiler by fixing the tube with cable ties to the underside of the leading edge of the chainguard and let it drip! into the chain. Mine is due a service and I plan on doing it myself, I have the oil filter part number ( Bosch P9147 ) but I was wondering if anyone had a part number for the airfilter. Tony
     
  3. roadrocket1098

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    Hi Britfan60

    I have heard, (cannot confirm) that the following oil filter will fit

    Bosch P9147
    1 457 429 147 -410
    for a Merc Vano van

    Hope this helps

    roadrocket1098
     
  4. TonyA

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    The Norton 961 Air filter is part number 6200005 please confirm with a dealer. I want to send mine to K&N so they can make it for aftermarket.
     
  5. TonyA

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    Hello Roadrocket , The Bosch P9147 is factory fitment and available on line form England.
     
  6. TonyA

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    I would be afraid that it would get too oily and cause a fall.. So this works for you , sounds very interesting.
     
  7. AJM356

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    I must add that the oil from the breather on my 961 is not as severe as some owners seem to have but the oil level is very critical to help prevent it.
    When I first got my 961 the oil consumption was quite heavy plus it smoked when starting from cold so I reported it to the factory a couple of times and they said it would get better as I was running it in. This did not happen so I took the bike up to the factory and asked them to sort it out. About a month later they delivered the bike to my home address and was told that they had honed the bores and replaced the valve guide seals, bearing in mind the main two reasons for oil consumption are past the bores and valve guides. After this work was done the bike is fine and uses no oil , apart from the breather drips. It does have the rattle coming from the clutch but I think the majority of them do.
    Perhaps a bit more development should have happened before they released the bike but after all the issues I love the bike and wherever I go people bombard me with questions.
    Like the site it's nice to hear from others about their issues.
     
  8. richard-7

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    What year is your SE and what Country??
     
  9. AJM356

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    I bought my bike directly from the factory at Donnington and it was first registered 14/01/13. It was supposed to be a customers from Italy but he cancelled and I happened to be there on a test ride on the factory demonstrator. Otherwise all the SE's had been sold. The only thing they changed was the headlight to comply with UK roads. I have had the cat removed plus fitted the bigger bore peashooter silencers and Norton remapped it.
     
  10. roadrocket1098

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    Hi Britfan60

    I have heard (cannot confirm) that the 961 oil filter used is a,

    Bosch P9147
    1 457 429 147 -410
    for a Merc Vano van

    Hope this helps
     
  11. TonyA

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    Hello Roadrocket , The Bosch P9147 is factory fitment and available on line form England.
     
  12. richard-7

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    We`ve been working really hard and think we may have a fix. My dads recent tests (attempt #4) have ZERO oil in the airbox after a 20minutes HWY trip. Whereas before would have a decent amount.

    More to come............ Almost there. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
     
  13. TonyA

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    Great News Richard , Count me in !
     
  14. G81 Can Cycle

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    I was about to replace my air filter. I had major amount of oil in my air box because of the screw blockage discussed in this thread. I read in the Norton manual that this filter is similar to a K and N. that is it is cleanable. If I am wrong about this let me know. I plan to clean it like a K and N and reinstall.
     
  15. richard-7

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    YES - CLEAN IT same as K&N.

    Also, keep that screw in the end of the hose while riding. Otherwise you RISK oil on the back brake disc. The hose is direct in line with the brake disc. I ride my bike every single dry day at least 45 miles and I drain at night about half a teaspoon into a baby food jar.

    My dad is really onto something with a fix and for a week has had ZERO oil in the airbox, and that is taking the air filter out to look inside. Then, we will implement this on my bike and if it passes we have one more bike from a guy 2 hrs from us to try it and he rides everyday too. He seems to have a lot more oil than myself or my dad. Final TEST will be both our bike riding to NC for the INOA RALLY. If it works, we will have something which is surprisingly easy and in expensive.

    :mrgreen:


    ALSO, we have a new tool coming out to replace your starter solenoid (MAIN ISSUE WITH STARTER NOT WORKING) without removing the starter. It's pretty cool.
     
  16. der

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    I'm likeing the sound of this airbox oil fix!
    I did a 250 mile ride on mine Tuesday and when I got back half a cup of oil dripped out of the pipe. Pipe was empty when I set off and the oil was just touching the bottom of the dip stick. A cure for this would be quite welcomed :D

    My Sport is 3yrs old today BTW and is booked in to the local Ducati dealers next Tuesday for it's annual service, seems Norton are happy to sell them the bit's required.
     
  17. richard-7

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    The Oil level does not make a difference unless you are over filling and then waiting too long to check. Run the bike and have the cap sort of loose, then shut the engine and check as fast as you can. I am looking forward to offering this solution, but too early to share it yet. The first 3 ideas seemed to work at first but after testing were not 100%. This solution is so far the best.
     
  18. roadrocket1098

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    Thanks for that der!

    I checked mine and thought it must be good as I bought the bike pre owned , and it has never dripped.

    I thought after your "post" to check it again, and I found a "screw" in the end!

    Removed said screw, and out came water and oil............fortunately not much!!!

    Many thanks

    Roadrocket1098
     
  19. Jack123

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    So Rich, if you dont mind me asking what was the test and how did it get on ? I am very curious about this.
     
  20. Britfan60

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    So happy to report: I finally got off my lazy ass and took the seat off for the first time in 2500 mi. to check my filter/air box. Filter was dry as a bone and looked brand new, under the filter was a small puddle, about a teaspoons worth of oil. The underside of the bike is a bit wet with oil, but none on the garage floor. Whew! You know when you read all this crap of various problems, you just know that every one of them is going to happen to you? Well it didn't. I still have some issues, but I'm glad this isn't one of them. Also happy to report, your gearboxes are probably just fine. Maybe some of us won't have starter issues either. (although mine didn't engage/ slipped just once. Scary shit)
     

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