961 is back !

Stu Bodycote · Oct 12, 2022

Voodooo said:
Plastic license plate holder
Metal chain guard

Yeah I was surprised to see that...unless they're going to look to offer those as after market add ons?

baz · Oct 12, 2022

I was hoping they'd have closed the gap between the frame and side panel/air filter housing
That could have been closed by 36%

Al's#5 · Oct 12, 2022

baz said:
I was hoping they'd have closed the gap between the frame and side panel/air filter housing
That could have been closed by 36%

That's a look I actually like and stopped me from ditching the airbox. Large filter and less obstruction, problem solved and look retained.

baz · Oct 12, 2022

Al's#5 said:
That's a look I actually like and stopped me from ditching the airbox. Large filter and less obstruction, problem solved and look retained.

I guess it's the style that people want
It really puts me off of them
That and the clatter
Although my mates early one dosent seem to clatter as much

Gojuu · Oct 12, 2022

Stu Bodycote said:
Yeah I was surprised to see that...unless they're going to look to offer those as after market add ons?

I’ve ordered the hugger and chain guard both in CF from Birmingham already - they do not have the number plate mount in CF.

Stephen_Spencer · Oct 12, 2022

Gojuu said:
I’ve ordered the hugger and chain guard both in CF from Birmingham already - they do not have the number plate mount in CF.

Them spares are flowing Gj! Just about to enquire ref a single seat unit - there’s been no mention of it so it’s unlikely. Strange I think, as I really do prefer the look over the dual seat unit. You’d have to think that it would be a pretty popular option. And carbon wheels?

Stephen_Spencer · Oct 12, 2022

This guy gets it!! Halleluja!!!

Voodooo · Oct 12, 2022

Gojuu said:
No, but I've mixed and matched enough similar, close or even same family different spec stuff to know that a machine shop with similar parts can get a workable solution. I don't believe for a second you haven't done the same.

I’m not mixing a cam, lifters, etc from one manufacturer design that was made from something else for my engine.

I wouldn’t take a Chevy LS6 cam and try to make it work in a small block Chevy 350.
I know this sounds ridiculous and my comparison example is overboard.

But we have no clue as to what TVS changed because they as of now refuse to tell. Which is mind blowing to me.

On top of that, until we know exactly what was changed, I’m not buying anything engine internal from them.
I’m not interested in being a test mule and not being able to get a refund on parts that they know won’t work.

I still can’t get the other parts I asked for from them.

Voodooo · Oct 12, 2022

Stephen_Spencer said:
Them spares are flowing Gj! Just about to enquire ref a single seat unit - there’s been no mention of it so it’s unlikely. Strange I think, as I really do prefer the look over the dual seat unit. You’d have to think that it would be a pretty popular option. And carbon wheels?

That carbon fiber plate holder is not available and will never be available. I’ve asked for 3 years now.

Same goes for the single seat.

Voodooo · Oct 12, 2022

Stephen_Spencer said:
This guy gets it!! Halleluja!!!

Why am I so negative?

He gets it. But will he buy one?

The 961 has been out for how long?
Since 2010.
In those 10 years of production, we have no straight answer of how many were made and sold.

Nearly all of us on this forum have bought or owned a SG 961.
Knowing of the issues, why did you buy one? And what kept someone else from not buying one?

I’m sorry to say this, but I don’t think TVS is going to sell anything close to what supposedly sg sold.

I know the bike market is retro style nowadays, but for most, so is performance per dollar value.
The 961 is old news with a new owner.

I hope I’m wrong and I’m glad TVS is offering the Commando again. But I’m disappointed in the tight lipped nature of TVS.

Stu Bodycote · Oct 12, 2022

Voodooo said:
I’m not mixing a cam, lifters, etc from one manufacturer design that was made from something else for my engine.

I wouldn’t take a Chevy LS6 cam and try to make it work in a small block Chevy 350.
I know this sounds ridiculous and my comparison example is overboard.

But we have no clue as to what TVS changed because they as of now refuse to tell. Which is mind blowing to me.

On top of that, until we know exactly what was changed, I’m not buying anything engine internal from them.
I’m not interested in being a test mule and not being able to get a refund on parts that they know won’t work.

I still can’t get the other parts I asked for from them.

From memory, the lifters are from an LS1

Voodooo · Oct 12, 2022

Stu Bodycote said:
From memory, the lifters are from an LS1

Correct.
And the 961 was made originally to use those same lifters.

My point is, if they now use something that is different in dimensions and requires machine work or bushings to fit properly, I’m not interested in tearing into my bikes just to see if it fits, all because their tight lipped.

If they went from a cheap China made lifter to a comp cams or quality brand I’m on board for that.

cliffa · Oct 12, 2022

Stephen_Spencer said:
Them spares are flowing Gj! Just about to enquire ref a single seat unit - there’s been no mention of it so it’s unlikely. Strange I think, as I really do prefer the look over the dual seat unit. You’d have to think that it would be a pretty popular option. And carbon wheels?

You could permanently bond the cover on, then fill the joint and have it painted I guess.

italia · Oct 12, 2022

So two years ago if you asked me if a strong and profitable motorcycle company bought the remains of Garner Norton and re-started Commando 961 production with 64% of the parts being the same as Garner Nortons, would I be happy? Oh hell yeah!

Madnorton · Oct 13, 2022

italia said:
So two years ago if you asked me if a strong and profitable motorcycle company bought the remains of Garner Norton and re-started Commando 961 production with 64% of the parts being the same as Garner Nortons, would I be happy? Oh hell yeah!

You'd been more happy if they did it prior to wasting so much time on the V4.

Stephen_Spencer · Oct 13, 2022

cliffa said:
You could permanently bond the cover on, then fill the joint and have it painted I guess.

Gave that some thought to tie in with the ally tank on order, but discounted it; I want to keep the dual setup as well. It wouldn’t be difficult to do though but maybe a bit expensive. I’ll hunt a single seat unit down eventually.

Stephen_Spencer · Oct 13, 2022

Madnorton said:
You'd been more happy if they did it prior to wasting so much time on the V4.

Wasting time on a flagship motorcycle? I’m also guessing that they were working on both bikes simultaneously.

Voodooo · Oct 13, 2022

From Nortons Instagram post.

swooshdave · Oct 13, 2022

Welshrugby said:
This guys reviews are pretty good

I was watching this video on the new, new Commando and thought when they showed some classic Commandos that it was interesting that someone else had an unpainted tank on a Proddy.

Then I was like... hey, wait a minute!

City Garage · Oct 13, 2022

Any non performance tappet(lifter) that fits Harley 2017-Up M8, 1999-17 Twin Cam and 2000-Up XL Models which is .842 similar to a LS1 bore. I say non performance because the oil pump doesn't work well with performance tappets( we tested this on fueling and S&S lifters).

Oil pump pressure should be tested regularly, would do so at every oil change. An adapter is easy to make and goes into the oil pressure switch hole. You will be surprised at the inconsistent numbers

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