I totally subscribe to this point of view, but what really confuses me is how I ever learnt anything, based on the number of things I have successfully completed first time!.................If you don’t make mistakes now and then you’re not gonna learn anything.
I blame being ill with flu for that time I forced a 650 barrel on backwards, so that a dowel cracked the barrel base flange.We all make mistakes. I completely rebuilt a Trident engine and had it back in the bike. I was cleaning up my work bench and found a tiny plastic bag containing the dowels that went in the join between the cylinders and the cases. The entire top end had to come back off.
We all make mistakes and we all try and not make the same mistake twice. All part of the learning curve...I’ve been extremely busy lately and haven’t had a chance to tear the bike back down again. After talking to Greg I’m convinced that I improperly installed the rings the first time and flattened the red side of the ring allowing the overlap. I will post pics as soon as I tear it down. I’m not afraid to admit my mistakes and I’ve committed quite a few during this endeavor. If you don’t make mistakes now and then you’re not gonna learn anything.
Great question.Were both of the oil control ring expanders the same?
Did they come out of the box and bag that way?
The unequal length of the red end.View attachment 111197
I think there was an earlier photo showing the other rings were fitted fine.Were both of the oil control ring expanders the same?
Did they come out of the box and bag that way?
The unequal length of the red end.View attachment 111197
I can't find it. A couple of us posted example photos.I think there was an earlier photo showing the other rings were fitted fine.
Sorry, quite right. But, there was this:I can't find it. A couple of us posted example photos.
But, I found these:
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The damaged red end was due to improper installation not bad manufacturing. The rings came out of the packet undamaged. I just installed them wrong/overlapped.Sorry, quite right. But, there was this:
""been extremely busy lately and haven’t had a chance to tear the bike back down again. After talking to Greg I’m convinced that I improperly installed the rings the first time and flattened the red side of the ring allowing the overlap. "
So, just wondered if the red end, which looks damaged, failed as a result of how it was installed? Hinges on how certain Larry is that this is definitely how they came out of the packet
Thank you for closing the loop on this.The damaged red end was due to improper installation not bad manufacturing. The rings came out of the packet undamaged. I just installed them wrong/overlapped.
Larry, I guess it's obvious, but the times I've missed the obvious... have you found the bits that make up the rest of the red ends. That was the point I was making earlier on. Simply, you don't want them rattling around inside.The damaged red end was due to improper installation not bad manufacturing. The rings came out of the packet undamaged. I just installed them wrong/overlapped.
I did find a couple of red bits the first time I removed the rings. I have a magnetic sump plug so I'll check that when I change the oil. I'll also check the magnetic plug in the oil tank along with a new oil filter. In hindsight, I should have drained the oil while the top end was off and I could have also had a visual inside the crank cases. Hopefully all the bits will be gone after doing the above.Larry, I guess it's obvious, but the times I've missed the obvious... have you found the bits that make up the rest of the red ends. That was the point I was making earlier on. Simply, you don't want them rattling around inside.