Trouble at Mill

I bet there is no sence to the numbering, but when one comes up for sale on the ebay i will ask for the frame number , date of dispatch etc.,,,should be interesting :?: I would bet the info gleened from this will produce a production number..what do you think :?:
 
john robert bould said:
I bet there is no sence to the numbering, but when one comes up for sale on the ebay i will ask for the frame number , date of dispatch etc.,,,should be interesting :?: I would bet the info gleened from this will produce a production number..what do you think :?:
I think you will make more sense of the engine numbering, mine delivered June 2011 has a 2 digit engine number in the 90 range, at the Begonia rally recentley two Belgium guys had had their SE's delivered with consecutive engine numbers in the 22x range, but of course we all know Norton are not delivering any bikes. :roll:
 
I wonder if the registration authority would release information as to manufacture/type numbers [of machines - not discrete I.D.s] listed as registered in the past 18/12?
 
worntorn said:
And how do you like the bike?

Glen
Hi Glen
Sorry for the delay in replying to you but been a bit busy and out riding the bike. :D
Yes I do like it, and in true Commando tradition there is room to improve it. My dislikes, the seat is like a plank and after 100 miles my arse doesn't feel like it belongs to me anymore, I am going to get a gel pad fitted in the seat pad. Although it is a Sport and the riding position doesn't initially look to radical I find that as the tank is long I feel as if I am laying over the front end with quite a lot of weight on your wrists till you are doing about 60 mph, so i may look to raise the bars a bit if its not too much agro. My biggest complaint is the suspension is far to firm, probably great for blating around Donnington where obviously most of the development was but not so good on our 3rd world roads in the uk. I have spoken to Harris performance who have reworked the suspension on another 961 by fitting lower rate rear springs and re valving the front forks. The clutch and gearbox work beautifully despite all the comments about the bent rod linkage. The engine is best described as a bit of a character engine, not super smooth edging on harsh over 5000 and when pushed hard but quite relaxed when taking it steady up to about 70ish. I have the shorty aftermarket silencers fitted and wish I had gone for the longer original shape straight throughs as I think the shortys are a bit on the loud side. As to the performance these anti 961/SG Blowhards ought to ride one before they make stupid comments about their 70's Commando being as quick, I have a pretty well sorted 750 roadster that I have wrung the snot out of around Mallory Park and it aint got a hope in hell in keeping up with the 961 unless of course I spent more than the cost of a 961 in specialst bits to do it, the 961 may only have 85 horses but they are Shire horses not prancing ponies. :mrgreen:
I was disapointed with it when I got it and found on each ride I was trying to convince myself I liked it, couldn't stand the mechanical noise and it ran quite rough at low revs, the factory came and picked it up and when it was delivered back to me it was like a different bike, a bit of a shame it wasn't like it from the start but the factory are good to you once you actually get your bike although my passage to ownership was not that bad really.
Bottom line would I swap my 72 750 for it......no, I love my 750 and that would be the last bike I would part with but I do like the 961 and I do appreiate it the more I ride it and they do both look really good sitting together in the garage both being black and gold.
Best
Colin
 
Thanks for the reply Colin.
Sounds like the bulk of the problems are getting the bike tailored to your needs, no small thing when its wrong but a common problem nonetheless. The good news is that a cafe style bike can be made super comfortable with some fiddling. I recently built a Vincent Special that was a touch uncomfortable till I moved things around.
A couple of weeks ago I did a six hundred mile day on it. This was from the coast of BC heading east thru a couple of Mountain ranges to Alberta, so lots of hard riding in one shot and I felt great afterward. It is amazing how a comfy seat and some adjustable bars can change the ride.

I have a friend who has ridden his brother's 961. He is accustomed to old Triumph bonnevilles and has owned a Commando or two. He loved the power of the new Norton, in fact he is about to take the plunge and order.

Glen
 
What will it cut a quater in , Olde Bean .

Trouble at Mill


We will have to get percy lambert onto it . Or at least have a drink to him , en masse , on the centenary .

Percy Lambert, became the first person to cover a hundred miles in an hour, on February 15th 1913. The record was set at Brooklands (nr Weybridge England), while driving his 4.5 litre 'side valve' Talbot. He successful covered a total of 103 miles, in sixty minutes. As with all records, this one was soon broken. Although no one can take from Percy, that he was the first.
 
961 makes ONLY 85 hp?, please post dyno chart & 1/4 mile speed as evidence, or is it a guess?
 
Mayby a few laps against Gary Thwaite's 750 norton may change your view. :lol:

snakehips said:
worntorn said:
And how do you like the bike?

Glen
Hi Glen
Sorry for the delay in replying to you but been a bit busy and out riding the bike. :D
Yes I do like it, and in true Commando tradition there is room to improve it. My dislikes, the seat is like a plank and after 100 miles my arse doesn't feel like it belongs to me anymore, I am going to get a gel pad fitted in the seat pad. Although it is a Sport and the riding position doesn't initially look to radical I find that as the tank is long I feel as if I am laying over the front end with quite a lot of weight on your wrists till you are doing about 60 mph, so i may look to raise the bars a bit if its not too much agro. My biggest complaint is the suspension is far to firm, probably great for blating around Donnington where obviously most of the development was but not so good on our 3rd world roads in the uk. I have spoken to Harris performance who have reworked the suspension on another 961 by fitting lower rate rear springs and re valving the front forks. The clutch and gearbox work beautifully despite all the comments about the bent rod linkage. The engine is best described as a bit of a character engine, not super smooth edging on harsh over 5000 and when pushed hard but quite relaxed when taking it steady up to about 70ish. I have the shorty aftermarket silencers fitted and wish I had gone for the longer original shape straight throughs as I think the shortys are a bit on the loud side. As to the performance these anti 961/SG Blowhards ought to ride one before they make stupid comments about their 70's Commando being as quick, I have a pretty well sorted 750 roadster that I have wrung the snot out of around Mallory Park and it aint got a hope in hell in keeping up with the 961 unless of course I spent more than the cost of a 961 in specialst bits to do it, the 961 may only have 85 horses but they are Shire horses not prancing ponies. :mrgreen:
I was disapointed with it when I got it and found on each ride I was trying to convince myself I liked it, couldn't stand the mechanical noise and it ran quite rough at low revs, the factory came and picked it up and when it was delivered back to me it was like a different bike, a bit of a shame it wasn't like it from the start but the factory are good to you once you actually get your bike although my passage to ownership was not that bad really.
Bottom line would I swap my 72 750 for it......no, I love my 750 and that would be the last bike I would part with but I do like the 961 and I do appreiate it the more I ride it and they do both look really good sitting together in the garage both being black and gold.
Best
Colin
 
john robert bould said:
Mayby a few laps against Gary Thwaite's 750 norton may change your view. :lol:

snakehips said:
worntorn said:
And how do you like the bike?

Glen
Hi Glen
Sorry for the delay in replying to you but been a bit busy and out riding the bike. :D
Yes I do like it, and in true Commando tradition there is room to improve it. My dislikes, the seat is like a plank and after 100 miles my arse doesn't feel like it belongs to me anymore, I am going to get a gel pad fitted in the seat pad. Although it is a Sport and the riding position doesn't initially look to radical I find that as the tank is long I feel as if I am laying over the front end with quite a lot of weight on your wrists till you are doing about 60 mph, so i may look to raise the bars a bit if its not too much agro. My biggest complaint is the suspension is far to firm, probably great for blating around Donnington where obviously most of the development was but not so good on our 3rd world roads in the uk. I have spoken to Harris performance who have reworked the suspension on another 961 by fitting lower rate rear springs and re valving the front forks. The clutch and gearbox work beautifully despite all the comments about the bent rod linkage. The engine is best described as a bit of a character engine, not super smooth edging on harsh over 5000 and when pushed hard but quite relaxed when taking it steady up to about 70ish. I have the shorty aftermarket silencers fitted and wish I had gone for the longer original shape straight throughs as I think the shortys are a bit on the loud side. As to the performance these anti 961/SG Blowhards ought to ride one before they make stupid comments about their 70's Commando being as quick, I have a pretty well sorted 750 roadster that I have wrung the snot out of around Mallory Park and it aint got a hope in hell in keeping up with the 961 unless of course I spent more than the cost of a 961 in specialst bits to do it, the 961 may only have 85 horses but they are Shire horses not prancing ponies. :mrgreen:
I was disapointed with it when I got it and found on each ride I was trying to convince myself I liked it, couldn't stand the mechanical noise and it ran quite rough at low revs, the factory came and picked it up and when it was delivered back to me it was like a different bike, a bit of a shame it wasn't like it from the start but the factory are good to you once you actually get your bike although my passage to ownership was not that bad really.
Bottom line would I swap my 72 750 for it......no, I love my 750 and that would be the last bike I would part with but I do like the 961 and I do appreiate it the more I ride it and they do both look really good sitting together in the garage both being black and gold.
Best
Colin
No why should it. If you read my post I said if I spent as much on my 750 as the cost of a 961 it may keep up unless of course you are saying Gary Thwaites 750 is stock and has no big dollars invested in it. :roll:
 
J.A.W. said:
961 makes ONLY 85 hp?, please post dyno chart & 1/4 mile speed as evidence, or is it a guess?
If in the future I feel the need to have it on a dyno I will gladly post the results, not my guess factory quote 80 ps on their website and when it had its shorty exhausts and remap factory (Chris Walker) said good for an extra 5 hp. At the end of the day do I care, not really I ride both and its a damn site faster than a good 70's Commando unless of course you would like to post charts and facts as evidence. :D
 
We have the evidence on 60s 70s Commandos. Anywhere from high 30s horsepower for one in rough tune to 49 for a snappy one. For an out and out race bike 69 was recently quoted by Doug Mcrae, but that is a Herb Becker motor, a 750 steet bike wont get there.
This is rwhp, so add a few for crank hp.
So 80 or 85 for 414pound bike is bound to feel pretty good, especially if it comes in at a fairly low rpm as the 961 does.

Glen
 
IF [thats a big if, until evidence shown] the 961 has 85hp/414lb, it should be good for low 11sec @ ~120mph 1/4 mile, anyone done it, or ever seen it done?
 
I know of one person who has rode a new 961, and a CNW. Guess which one they didn't want to give back?
 
" I wonder if people will be bummed out if their new Cdo doesn't leak oil? "

We hear there may be a problem with Rust , when they Salt the Roads . :p otherwise .
 
I can't wait until I can buy a new Commando here in the US!


Thanks to everyone on this forum for your unbiased support, patience and kind words for the new Norton effort.
 
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