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NortonDominator2020 said:
The jealousy is eating you from the inside and makes you lie and lie when all the correct facts are written in my post. Just like last time that you came out the biggest liar and frustrated old fart💨
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Michael.
The clear liar here on this forum is you. And we all see it. Stop while you’re still here. You really are making yourself look stupid.

I love how you ignore a question and knowing you can’t back it up with proof. You make claims and back pedal. Again.

I’m jealous of nobody and certainly not one who’s better or lesser than me. I have everything I need. What I don’t need is a story teller.

Have a good day, I’m going to the ducati forum where they talk truth and avoid calling every forum member a liar
 
Stu Bodycote said:
Racebolt UK were a Norton supplier, for both production and the race programme. They manufactured fixings for Norton as well as supplying standard metric fixings in both Ti and Stainless Steel. If any of this was available from China to the same standard, do you think Norton, a company renowned for sourcing from China and Taiwan with MANY contacts in both, would have used a UK company?
Phone up Racebolt on Monday morning, get your flight booked and I'll meet you at their factory in Bristol. You can treat me to a Toby Carvery for the inconvenience to my day.
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Stu, I made it clear that I didn’t think that you wasn’t at their factory and saw it.

I DID NOT accused anyone of lying!!! If you are talking about Stu saying that he was there and saw it than he was there and saw it! I don’t know when he saw it but I’m talking about today! I stand by my opinion I don’t believe they have a factory and making their bolts by themselves in house!!!
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
Stu, I made it clear that I didn’t think that you wasn’t at their factory and saw it.

I DID NOT accused anyone of lying!!! If you are talking about Stu saying that he was there and saw it then he was there and saw it! I don’t know when he saw it but I’m talking about today! I stand by my opinion I don’t believe they have a factory and making their bolts by themselves in house!!!
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You have a problem for pro bolt. Even if pro bolt themselves told you they made their own products in house, and if you seen them making them with your own eyes, you’d still be here crying about it.

GOD DAMN!
You didn’t even buy pro bolt hardware!

Take your complaints up with Aliexpress where you buy all your other shit.

We answered all your questions and yet you, like always, want to debate us as all dumb and stupid.

You even claim in your original post to accuse pro bolt of making their bolts in China. Only to make yourself feel better because you feel that by saving a few dollars that you received an equally quality part.

Guess what?
You got what you paid for.
 

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Fast Eddie said:
I‘m trying to be factual and logical, and keep emotion out of it.

What I said is “By saying outright that you disbelieve a statement made by someone… you are calling them a liar”.

Reading it again, I should have put ‘by default’ in there. My bad.

But I stand 100% by the intent of my point. If you tell me something is FACT because you have seen it with your own eyes, and I saying I don’t believe you because it doesn’t exist, then I am calling you a liar by default. I don’t see a logical way of explaining it otherwise. So I certainly don’t see how I’m being unfair !

But as I said earlier, surely we have reached the point where all parties have had their say, and now we must agree to disagree and move on. The name calling isn’t getting anyone anywhere gentlemen.
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Did Stu said he was there last week and saw everything and I said that I don’t believe him?

I didn’t said that I don’t believe to anything that someone said here and I also wrote this to make it more clear.
I DID NOT accused anyone of lying!!! If you are talking about Stu saying that he was there and saw it than he was there and saw it! I don’t know when he saw it but I’m talking about today! I stand by my opinion I don’t believe they have a factory and making their bolts by themselves in house!!!


And I will add, I’m talking about TODAY, THESE DAYS I don’t believe that they are making their own bolts and not manufacturing them in China.
It is not logical, it doesn’t make sense, the Chinese can make them a better quality made by better machines at a fraction of the cost! All they need to do is pack the orders and ship. So I don’t believe that these people are stupid and didn’t upgrade their business long time ago and started manufacturing in China paying top dollar and getting top quality product.
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
Did Stu said he was there last week and saw everything and I said that I don’t believe him?

I didn’t said that I don’t believe to anything that someone said here and I also wrote this to make it more clear.
I DID NOT accused anyone of lying!!! If you are talking about Stu saying that he was there and saw it than he was there and saw it! I don’t know when he saw it but I’m talking about today! I stand by my opinion I don’t believe they have a factory and making their bolts by themselves in house!!!


And I will add, I’m talking about TODAY, THESE DAYS I don’t believe that they are making their own bolts and not manufacturing them in China.
It is not logical, it doesn’t make sense, the Chinese can make them a better quality made by better machines at a fraction of the cost! All they need to do is pack the orders and ship. So I don’t believe that these people are stupid and didn’t upgrade their business long time ago and started manufacturing in China paying top dollar and getting top quality product.
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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE THE DUMBEST FUCK ON PLANET EARTH. SERIOUSLY. LIKE THE NUMBER ONE IDIOT EVER TO ROAM THE PLANET EARTH.

You know everything
You have the best of everything
You do everything
You’re just a know it all.

Yes only China makes things. No other country makes anything. Got it.
It just makes no sense you say.
Got it.

Enjoy your stupid fucking purchase from Aliexpress you stupid ass.

JUST STFU AND STOP.
 
Vernon240 said:
Reading this thread and had to comment as well.

ND2020, you can’t throw out these bs ‘facts’ based entirely on incredulity. You are not talking to a bunch of millennials here where ‘facts’ are based on feelings and opinions. Just because you ‘think’ everyone sources from China doesn’t mean it’s fact. What have you got to back this up? A PO from probolt to Alliexpress, proving they source from there? You say your fasteners are top quality grade 5 titanium....and then the head of a bolt literally falls off 😬 How do you know? Have you had them independently tested? Have you seen the factory in China? What about their QA processes? Goods in, material sourcing standards? So the factory says they are grade 5 and they are cheap, so they must be grade 5 and awesome quality....because they say so. Fact. A uk company says they make their own, but charge a lot. Bunch of liars, lying through thier teeth...because, we’ll, they charge a lot....and there is only one maga-factory in China the ‘Awesome grade 5 titanium factory co’....probably. I’ve not seen it, but based on what you say, I’m going to say that’s fact. Because we’ll, it must be, right? 🤪 I’m going to go out on a limb and say you have bought crap quality fasteners and they would go nowhere near my bike. Fit what you like to your bike, but be assured, not all bolts are created equal. Apparently the heads don’t fall off the good ones.

I did a lot of research on fuel lines for my cars. People were complaining that fuel line they bought from China was deteriorating in months...yet it has the correct standards marking on it (it was made in the ‘Awesome top quality fuel hose co’ factory in China ( it’s right next to Awesome grade 5 titanium factory co. Fact. Because that’s what I think, so must be, right?). Surprisingly, I found reputable suppliers put their name on their product and you could buy it through their authorised distributors to ensure it’s not knock off stuff. It was crazy. The ebay Chinese stuff looked the same. It was black, rubbery and you could run fuel through it and everything! According to your logic, that must mean I’m just being ripped off and it all comes from the Awesome top quality fuel hose co. Factory. Of course. Silly me.

You have asked for opinions, but I’m not sure why. You just argue you point from a position and incredulity and ignore what is fact. You have a crap bolt, one from a load of bolts from Aliexprsss..but refuse to accept that there is a chance they may not be great quality....but then go onto to say someone like probolt lies about having a factory (and no, I have not seen the factory....but that doesn't prove it’s not there) based on nothing more than bs opinion..which you peddle as fact.

I think carefully about where I source safety critical fasteners. I’d advise you do the same.
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You are right In everything you wrote. If I will think other than what you wrote someone here will say that I called you a liar, so you are correct in everything.
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
Did Stu said he was there last week and saw everything and I said that I don’t believe him?

I didn’t said that I don’t believe to anything that someone said here and I also wrote this to make it more clear.
I DID NOT accused anyone of lying!!! If you are talking about Stu saying that he was there and saw it than he was there and saw it! I don’t know when he saw it but I’m talking about today! I stand by my opinion I don’t believe they have a factory and making their bolts by themselves in house!!!


And I will add, I’m talking about TODAY, THESE DAYS I don’t believe that they are making their own bolts and not manufacturing them in China.
It is not logical, it doesn’t make sense, the Chinese can make them a better quality made by better machines at a fraction of the cost! All they need to do is pack the orders and ship. So I don’t believe that these people are stupid and didn’t upgrade their business long time ago and started manufacturing in China paying top dollar and getting top quality product.
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If you’re right, they’re breaking some fairly serious U.K. trading standard laws…

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NortonDominator2020 said:
Did Stu said he was there last week and saw everything and I said that I don’t believe him?

I didn’t said that I don’t believe to anything that someone said here and I also wrote this to make it more clear.
I DID NOT accused anyone of lying!!! If you are talking about Stu saying that he was there and saw it than he was there and saw it! I don’t know when he saw it but I’m talking about today! I stand by my opinion I don’t believe they have a factory and making their bolts by themselves in house!!!


And I will add, I’m talking about TODAY, THESE DAYS I don’t believe that they are making their own bolts and not manufacturing them in China.
It is not logical, it doesn’t make sense, the Chinese can make them a better quality made by better machines at a fraction of the cost! All they need to do is pack the orders and ship. So I don’t believe that these people are stupid and didn’t upgrade their business long time ago and started manufacturing in China paying top dollar and getting top quality product.
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Voodooo said:
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE THE DUMBEST FUCK ON PLANET EARTH. SERIOUSLY. LIKE THE NUMBER ONE IDIOT EVER TO ROAM THE PLANET EARTH.

You know everything
You have the best of everything
You do everything
You’re just a know it all.

Yes only China makes things. No other country makes anything. Got it.
It just makes no sense you say.
Got it.

Enjoy your stupid fucking purchase from Aliexpress you stupid ass.

JUST STFU AND STOP.
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You are just a miserable liar story teller frustrated old fart 💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
You are right In everything you wrote. If I will think other than what you wrote someone here will say that I called you a liar, so you are correct in everything.
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🤣😂 You can say anything you want, but you make poor arguments and quote ‘facts’ based on what you think is logical....but offer no evidence.

You think Probolt can’t manufacture because it is so much cheaper in China.

That is your whole argument. No facts, no experience of going there and finding no factory, no documentation, nothing. When someone says they have seen it....you then try and prove your point by saying ‘ah, but do they do it now.....can I see their factory? No doubt if they sent you a photo, you would say, ah, but is that their factory. People will call you out on this. You seem surprised by this. Then upset. Then insult people. And call them ugly and old. For all you know, they might be good looking and old 😃

I agree, things can be cheaper in China. They can also be excellent quality. None of this automatically means probolt are lying on their web site and source it all in China. Your thought process just lacks any sort of joined up thinking. It sounds like you are accusing probolt of lying at least.....
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
I will do my best to prove it right or that I was wrong.
Also, as far as I know all bolts and nuts need to be marked by law. Only the Chinese ones don’t have to be.
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Errrr in what country do bolts and nuts need to be marked by law? 😂 🤪 is there a reward for turning in people selling them without markings? and how come Chinese ones are exempt?

Are you sure you are not making this up as you go along? 🤔
 
Vernon240 said:
🤣😂 You can say anything you want, but you make poor arguments and quote ‘facts’ based on what you think is logical....but offer no evidence.

You think Probolt can’t manufacture because it is so much cheaper in China.

That is your whole argument. No facts, no experience of going there and finding no factory, no documentation, nothing. When someone says they have seen it....you then try and prove your point by saying ‘ah, but do they do it now.....can I see their factory? No doubt if they sent you a photo, you would say, ah, but is that their factory. People will call you out on this. You seem surprised by this. Then upset. Then insult people. And call them ugly and old. For all you know, they might be good looking and old 😃

I agree, things can be cheaper in China. They can also be excellent quality. None of this automatically means probolt are lying on their web site and source it all in China. Your thought process just lacks any sort of joined up thinking. It sounds like you are accusing probolt of lying at least.....
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He’s trying to make an argument and excuse as to why his bolt broke. In his mind, if he paid more for pro bolt it wouldn’t be any different.

He’s cheap in both the wallet and mind set.
 
Vernon240 said:
Errrr in what country do bolts and nuts need to be marked by law? 😂 🤪 is there a reward for turning in people selling them without markings? and how come Chinese ones are exempt?

Are you sure you are not making this up as you go along? 🤔
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English is not my language but as far as I know when I say as far as I know it means that I’m not sure and I might be mistaken and someone else might know better.
Got it smartass?
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
English is not my language but as far as I know when I say as far as I know it means that I’m not sure and I might be mistaken and someone else might know better.
Got it smartass?
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You type good English. And you may fool someone else here, but not me.
You know what you say and type and we all know what you mean.
Stop the shit. Smartass.
 
I don’t post much on here, I like to read the posts on here and it’s interesting. I’m a ex master guild certified technician with over 35 years of experience with VAG automobiles, just so everyone knows where I’m coming from. Can someone from this form PLEASE go and get some information on the titanium Pro Bolt shop and posted on here and once it’s on here can you nortondominator2020 please the access Norton site. You seem to be the one with the state of mind issue. All that name calling of other members I think you for got to take your medication or they’re made in china. You say you where in the forces, do you think the forces would buy chines products to repair their equipment, do you think the forces that you where in bought chinese planes, tanks, weapons, it’s tiering reading your (nortondominator2020) posts when you don’t agree with someone and you go off on the by name calling. I think it has to stop, this isn’t who/what this site is for. I’ve been on here and read all the posts and theirs only one person that posts name calling of other members. It’s time to STOP answering to this individual
 
I meant to put LEAVE in between please and the access Norton site. My brain thinks faster than I can type
 
NortonDominator2020 said:
English is not my language but as far as I know when I say as far as I know it means that I’m not sure and I might be mistaken and someone else might know better.
Got it smartass?
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So ‘nut and bolt law’ is ‘ is as far as you know and you may be mistaken

But:

Probolt just resells Alliexpress stuff
Your bolts are top quality
Voodoo is old and ugly 😱
I’m a smartass

Are absolute facts. 🤔

You are 51. A grown adult. Start acting like one, instead of resorting to name calling and arguing you are right....‘because’...

This has nothing to do with your language skills (which are excellent) and everything to do with you.
 
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