T160 it is so damn heavy

Hi Flatspot
With the T160 I have the left hand on the handlebar, with the bars pulled all the way to the left against the lockstops foot on the centre stand & roll the bike round & it will pop up on the stand. I don't lift!
The lifting handle will help to pull on.
 
Chris said:
Hi Flatspot
With the T160 I have the left hand on the handlebar, with the bars pulled all the way to the left against the lockstops foot on the centre stand & roll the bike round & it will pop up on the stand. I don't lift!
The lifting handle will help to pull on.
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I've never tried that
Sounds good
 
Chris - I’ll give it a try when the garage is empty. The problem is I need to park the 2 bikes side by side, but if it works than I’ll rearrange things.
 
An alternative would be to fit the shorter (9 1/4" pivot centre to foot) T140 centre stand that my T160 has and takes hardly any effort at all to put on the stand but still raises the rear wheel clear of the ground.
 
This bike is a tiny bit lighter than stock. The alloy rims and Madass brake knock off about 8 pounds.
 
A bit off track so apologies but my 750 roadster with an Alton/alloy rims/alloy yokes / front and rear disc brakes etc etc
So it's very far from standard weighs a fraction under 200kg so around 440lbs
 
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When the MoT brake efficiency test was introduced some years ago my MoT tester at that time didn't have the expensive roller brake test equipment* so used the alternative hand winch with a pull gauge that required each axle weight to be taken in order to calculate efficiency of the brake.
I remember my Mk3 Roadster certainly didn't weigh close to the "book" figure even allowing for some inaccuracy of the scales that I believe had to be checked for accuracy.

*For our non-UK members who might not know what the UK MoT brake test involves (although 40-year-old 'Historic' tax class vehicles are now mainly exempt from the MoT test}.
 
L.A.B. said:
When the MoT brake efficiency test was introduced some years ago my MoT tester at that time didn't have the expensive roller brake test equipment* so used the alternative hand winch with a pull gauge that required each axle weight to be taken in order to calculate efficiency of each brake.
I remember my Mk3 Roadster certainly didn't weigh close to the "book" figure even allowing for some inaccuracy of the scales that I believe had to be checked for accuracy.

*For our non-UK members who might not know what the UK MoT brake test involves (although 40-year-old 'Historic' tax class vehicles are now mainly exempt from the MoT test}.
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I tried weighing my Norton with bathroom scales first of all with a wheel chocked the same height as the scales etc
But a mate has a set of race car calibrated scales (it's a set of 4 and I put my Norton on 2 of them )that I borrowed and there was a big descrepency between these and the bathroom scales
 
I’ve just measured the shocks and they’re 12 3/4” ish, allowing for a tad of compression then they’re 12.9”

The centre of the stand pivot to the end of the rocker is 10“ and a bit

it could be technique is needed, but I’m not really up to supporting the weight and struggling for now, so I’ll wait until I can find someone to lend a hand. I can get a T140 stand 83-7532 for a good price if needed.

I wonder how accurate my local weighbridge that I take my motorhome is?
 
baz said:
I tried weighing my Norton with bathroom scales first of all with a wheel chocked the same height as the scales etc
But a mate has a set of race car calibrated scales (it's a set of 4 and I put my Norton on 2 of them )that I borrowed and there was a big descrepency between these and the bathroom scales
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Which way Baz ?
 
Flatspot said:
The centre of the stand pivot to the end of the rocker is 10“ and a bit
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Yes, 10 1/8" would be the normal T160 83-1267* length stand.

*(also late pre-OIF T120, Edit: and T150)


Flatspot said:
I can get a T140 stand 83-7532 for a good price if needed.
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I believe the straight replacement to be 83-4941. It would, however, be wise to confirm the (9 1/4") pivot centre-to-foot length with the supplier before buying.

Triumph TR7/ T140 Centre Stand - 1973-79 Models - OEM: 83-4941

Triumph TR7/ T140 Centre Stand - 1973-79 Models Made In England OEM: 83-4941 Classic Triumph Motorcycle centre stands side stands
www.feked.com www.feked.com
T160 it is so damn heavy



The late T140 83-7532 stand has larger diameter pivot eyes so needs adaptor bushes.

Triumph TR7/ T140 Centre Stand - 1979 onwards OEM: 83-7532

Triumph TR7/ T140 Centre Stand - 1979 onwards OEM: 83-7532. Made in England by LF Harris. Classic Triumph Motorcycle centre stands side stands
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T160 it is so damn heavy
 
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Good call. I can get the early T140 one for also a good price

Now, for the first time since I’ve had it, it is now parked on the sidestand and there’s a small puddle of oil under the chaincase. Now to catch22 - I need to get it back upright on the centrestand on the ramp to look at it…….. :confused:

I’m taking the dog out for the morning and I’ll worry about this later.
 
Flatspot said:
Good call. I can get the early T140 one for also a good price
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I've just noticed that the T160 83-1267 and T140 83-4941 stand assemblies use different mounting bolts that I need to take a look at.

T140:

Frame :: Stands + Parts :: Stand Bolts & Fittings :: Centre Stand Bolt - Triumph/BSA - 21-2077

Centre Stand Bolt - Triumph/BSA - 21-2077 Centre stand securing bolt. Suit late model Triumh and BSA oil in frame models OEM: 21-2077, S2077
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T160:

Frame :: Stands + Parts :: Stand Bolts & Fittings :: Triumph Centre Stand Bolt - 650cc Unit Twins + T150 and T160 Models

Triumph Centre Stand Bolt - 650cc Unit Twins + T150 and T160 Models. As used on 650 unit twins from 1967 onwards + all Triumph Trident models. OEM: 21-1978, S1978
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I have a late T140 "Harris" Bonneville with the 83-7532 centre stand and I tried to fit this to my T160 a couple of years ago and it wouldn't fit. I can't remember the specifics, but as LAB says, don't buy the later one.

If the 83-4941 definitely fits, I will get one of these as well as my T160 back wheel (19") sits a good inch from the ground when on the centre stand, and having to lift it that high is not easy.
 
As one of the lighter T150v owners it is no joy getting it on the centre stand but can do it on good level pavement. If
the attempt stalls very likely the bike will fall over and I am powerless to do much about it. Getting back up as it leaks fuel all over
is a superhuman effort for me.
Face the bikes DS, LEFT foot on the centre stand extension pressing down, both hands on the rear grab rail along the mud guard.
shove down hard with foot pushing it forward and lift up and back with hands in concentrated effort. With a full tank it is nearly
impossible less so with less fuel. I rarely do this anywhere but the garage. Never do I move the bike without straddling it.
The added weight of a T160 v a T150v removes any possibility of me getting the electric start option! All 150/160 bikes need to
lose serious weight. The Rickman option is constantly on my mind...
 
Flatspot said:
Good call. I can get the early T140 one for also a good price

Now, for the first time since I’ve had it, it is now parked on the sidestand and there’s a small puddle of oil under the chaincase. Now to catch22 - I need to get it back upright on the centrestand on the ramp to look at it…….. :confused:

I’m taking the dog out for the morning and I’ll worry about this later.
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What about buying two wheel chocks?

Wheel your bikes into the chocks to park them nice n upright. Job done.
 
Ok, so...the bolt appears to be the T160 item.
The T140 stand pivot is threaded (presumably, the original T160 stand is too?)...
T160 it is so damn heavy


...so the thin nut is a lock nut (secured by the tabbed washer).
T160 it is so damn heavy


I'm guessing the arm of the T140 stand will clear the standard LH exhaust as my T160 has a Hyde 3-1 system.
T160 it is so damn heavy
 
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