Bonzo
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The next wall to climb over to catch a fully legal sniff of classic bike euphoria is the registration of my bike in the Isle of Man.
Story so far...
May 2022. Bought the bike from a gentleman in the UK. It was registered in his name on age related UK plates. He purchased from an importer, who bought it from the US where the bike spent its life from January 1974. He didn't bond with it as he was a Triumph chap. Although there was no service history with the bike, it did come with some paperwork. I'll come to that shortly. I insured it on its UK AR plate until it gets registered here in IoM.
September 2022. After sorting a few issues, I got the bike certified as roadworthy and went to get it registered with an IoM plate, however, only now does it become apparent that the V5C bottom tear off slip that I have isn't enough to proceed here. They need the full logbook. I remember the seller saying he wrote my details on the logbook and returned it to the DVLA, sending me the tear off slip. I thought this was correct, but apparently if the vehicle is going abroad (which the IoM is) he should have given me the full logbook.
The IoM Post office (who handle vehicle reg) told me to contact the DVLA to obtain the full logbook. I emailed the DVLA who advised that they cannot send a V5C to anywhere outside of the UK and to speak to the foreign authority (ie. the IoM Vehicle Reg - IoM PO). I craftily, tried a difference PO in the hope it would just get processed, alas to no avail. I emailed the DVLA again explaining the situation and the reply was the same.
So, it appears I'm caught in a red tape loop limbo.
The paperwork that was provided with the bike is the aforementioned V5C tear off, a purchase receipt from the previous owner, an NOC/2 Age Rel letter (addressed to him) from the Norton Owners club providing confirmation that the engine & frame numbers match and confirmation of the M/Y of manufacture, and also a letter of authorization from the from the DVLA for an age-related UK number. Lastly there is a copy of a certificate of title from the last owner in the US.
I don't know if any of that will help the cause, but I've put it in an email to the IoM vehicle reg people.
As we stand, I have 4 options.
1. Sell the bike.
2. drain it of all fluids, park it in the front room and look at it until I pop my clogs.
3. Sell up in the IoM and move back to the UK.
4. Ride it illegally.
So really, no options then
Anyway, I'll see how we get on and post the outcome up here. It could be that the letter from the NOC could help (though I guarantee I'll have to pay to get another one, with my name on).
Really this is just an obvious cautionary tale to anyone considering 'importing'. Make sure you check which paperwork you need to register it in your country. Sounds obvious, but I genuinely thought we had this spot on.
Story so far...
May 2022. Bought the bike from a gentleman in the UK. It was registered in his name on age related UK plates. He purchased from an importer, who bought it from the US where the bike spent its life from January 1974. He didn't bond with it as he was a Triumph chap. Although there was no service history with the bike, it did come with some paperwork. I'll come to that shortly. I insured it on its UK AR plate until it gets registered here in IoM.
September 2022. After sorting a few issues, I got the bike certified as roadworthy and went to get it registered with an IoM plate, however, only now does it become apparent that the V5C bottom tear off slip that I have isn't enough to proceed here. They need the full logbook. I remember the seller saying he wrote my details on the logbook and returned it to the DVLA, sending me the tear off slip. I thought this was correct, but apparently if the vehicle is going abroad (which the IoM is) he should have given me the full logbook.
The IoM Post office (who handle vehicle reg) told me to contact the DVLA to obtain the full logbook. I emailed the DVLA who advised that they cannot send a V5C to anywhere outside of the UK and to speak to the foreign authority (ie. the IoM Vehicle Reg - IoM PO). I craftily, tried a difference PO in the hope it would just get processed, alas to no avail. I emailed the DVLA again explaining the situation and the reply was the same.
So, it appears I'm caught in a red tape loop limbo.
The paperwork that was provided with the bike is the aforementioned V5C tear off, a purchase receipt from the previous owner, an NOC/2 Age Rel letter (addressed to him) from the Norton Owners club providing confirmation that the engine & frame numbers match and confirmation of the M/Y of manufacture, and also a letter of authorization from the from the DVLA for an age-related UK number. Lastly there is a copy of a certificate of title from the last owner in the US.
I don't know if any of that will help the cause, but I've put it in an email to the IoM vehicle reg people.
As we stand, I have 4 options.
1. Sell the bike.
2. drain it of all fluids, park it in the front room and look at it until I pop my clogs.
3. Sell up in the IoM and move back to the UK.
4. Ride it illegally.
So really, no options then
![Mad :mad: :mad:](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png)
Anyway, I'll see how we get on and post the outcome up here. It could be that the letter from the NOC could help (though I guarantee I'll have to pay to get another one, with my name on).
Really this is just an obvious cautionary tale to anyone considering 'importing'. Make sure you check which paperwork you need to register it in your country. Sounds obvious, but I genuinely thought we had this spot on.