Norton 961 Alternate parts list.

Folks,

As the future of parts for our bikes is uncertain I'm collating a list of alternate parts for 961's. This is purely a list, so please don't start commenting, comparing one against the other or generally derailing (as has been know to happen on the odd occasion here) I've already mentioned this to Jerry and if we can keep it in a common format he will see about putting together a sticky list. So here is what I've got together so far. Feel free to add, but please just the description, manufacturer and their part number plus any helpful notes as you see below. Alternatively just P.M. me and I will add to the list. (It will probably be neater that way actually)

AIR FILTER
BMC FM983/08

OIL FILTER
Mann HU610X
Bosch P9147
WIX WL7227

OIL FILTER COVER O-RING ( Dimensions 66mm ID x 2mm )
McMaster-Carr Part # 1009CINC

CLUTCH PARTS
Friction Plates EBC CK2255 (same as Yamaha TDM850 & other Yamaha)
Springs EBC CSK126
Complete Clutch Set EBC SRK51 (Steel Plates , Friction Plates , Springs)
Clutch holding tool EBC CT008SP (same as Yamaha FZR750)
Alternate clutch holding tool ( cheaper than the EBC one)

CUSH DRIVE RUBBERS
Talon TCDR-1 (use Silkolene Pro RG2 racing grease)

SPROCKETS
Front Talon TG62052518
Rear Talon TR351525 is the reference, then the number of teeth can be chosen and becomes TR351 50 525 for a 50 tooth sprocket.

AIR PRESSURE SENSOR
Yamaha 1WS-82380-00 (Has a green sticker)

SPARK PLUGS
NGK CR9E (standard - threaded tip)
NGK CR9EB (standard - solid tip)
NGK CR9EIX (Iridium)

CAM SENSOR
Bosch 0281002667 ( replaces 0232103037)
Febi Bilstein 29547

CRANK POSITION SENSOR
Electrex P6-500 (500 Ohm)

HEAD TEMP SENSOR
Bosch 0280130026
Honeywell ES120-0030

TIP OVER SWITCH
Triumph T2502405 (Switch , Fall Detection)

HANDLEBAR SWITCHES ( Manufactured by Domino)
Left 0060AA.9A.04-04
Right 0060AB.9A.04-00

NEUTRAL SWITCH (Single bullet style connector) As used on many Honda's. (e.g. Honda NT700 Deauville). Thread M10 x 1.25 x 15.5
Tourmax ML_705.86.47
Honda DFGAA425023P or DFGAA-425-023P ( From David Silver).

RELAYS
Honda 38502-MCS-G01
Omron G8HN-1C4T-RH
Durite 0-728-13 ( reportedly these are prone to failure).
Bosch Automotive 332201107

IGNITION COIL PACK
Bosch 0221503035

HT LEADS
If you want to make your own, cut the cables to 22 & 40cm then add ends.

Magnecor make three types for the 961 !!
8mm E/sports - part no. 2046
7mm E/sports - part no. 2746
8.5mm KV85 - part no. 2546


IGNITION KEY
Cagiva / Ducati 800084071 ( made by Zadi )

BRAKE PADS

FRONT (Goldline radial calipers with 4 pads USD forks)
Goldfren 177
EBC FA322
Brembo 07BB33SA
Lucas TRW MCB721SV

FRONT (Brembo axial non USD fork)
Goldfren 141
EBC FA244
Brembo 07BB33SA

FRONT (grey radial caliper USD forks)
EBC FA630HH
Goldfren 328
Lucas TRW MCB856SV

REAR (all models)
EBC FA266
Brembo 07BB20CC

STARTER MOTOR (same as Buell Blast & Harley Sportster)
Nippon Denso TN128000-8453
Harley 31391-91 (same as Buell Blast)

ALTERNATOR
Rotor
Norton 530001
Electrex World RO961
Stator Generator with Crank Sensor
Norton 5300003
Elextrex World G961

FUEL PUMP
Bosch 69613 (0 580 453 407) It requires a 1/2" tubular spacer - the white piece in this image.

FUEL PUMP CONNECTOR (That's the red piece in this image.)
Ford 1072003 or 1330328
Gutsibits FUA30000




FUEL PUMP O-ring
McMaster Carr # 1295N668 (Chemical-Resistant Viton® Fluoroelastomer O-Ring 5 mm Wide, 90 mm ID)

FUEL PUMP SPIGOT
Dorman part no. 800-123 (https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-49076-800-123.aspx)

FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR (Make sure you have the right pressure setting. 3.5 bar)
Ducati 28340031A
Aprilia (tbc)
Cycleworks SKU FPR35KCA (KTM Husaberg https://ca-cycleworks.com/fpr35k.html )

FUEL FILTER
MAHLE KL 145

THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR (TPS) (Clockwise rotation)
Twin Power 933-1006
Magneti Marelli PF2C

FUEL INJECTOR NOZZLE
Bosch 0280 155 931
Intermotor FJ647

IDLE AIR VALVE / IDLE AIR MOTOR
Lowe 57177
Magneti Marelli 8001063373638
Siemens / VDO D95177

INDICATOR
Aprilia 349582 (also fitted to many Triumph)


INSTRUMENTS ( VDO Viewline )
Gauge surround, chrome
VDO part number: A2C5319291801
Mount / Standoff,
VDO part number: A2C59510854
Mode button (the one in the middle of the dash),
VDO part number: 240 205

LEVERS

Integrated Cylinder:

Brake lever (Aprilia / Ducati) TBC
Clutch lever (Aprilia / Ducati) 62640711A


Remote Cylinder:

Brake lever (Aprilia / Ducati) 62640071a (aka 1181)
Clutch lever (Aprilia / Ducati) 63140091A (aka 1180)

HANDLEBAR GRIPS

Magura 0720855

SEAL front forks (USD) 43X55X11/14
BR5566F

Breather oil / air seperator (Yamaha R6 part)
Yamaha part number EB-15371-00-00

Hi Great list . Can I ask if the front pads for a Sport with Axial gold calipers is listed ?

I think this is a good idea. Keep posting to the list here and if it turns into multiple pages, I will build a database so we can search parts easily.

cheers

We will add what we can

Fuel Pump O-ring McMaster Carr # 1295N668 Chemical-Resistant Viton® Fluoroelastomer O-Ring 5 mm Wide, 90 mm ID

Fuel Pump- Complete unit can be sourced from Ducati or Aprilia

Fuel Filter- MAHLE Original KL 145

Fuel Pressure Regulator can be sourced from Ducati (28340031A) or Aprilia but the cheapest we found was here at CA Cycleworks https://ca-cycleworks.com/fpr35k.html Make sure you have the right pressure setting. 3.5 bar

961 Original Stator Alternator Generator/with Crank Sensor Elextrex World - OEM 5300003 - G961

TPS- cts 04tp002

Fuel Injector - Intermotor FJ647 is a good replacement and can get at most auto parts

Idle Air Valve - Lowe 57177

Carbon Fiber repairs on chain guard - Twill weave is what you want


Flasher Relay- We change them to adjustable so they work with LED like this one here 12V Speed Adjustable 2 Pin Direct Replacement Compatible LED Electronic Flasher Relay


Also there are at least 3 wiring diagrams that are out there but there may be more since we have run across non matching diagrams

And should there be a map room for those of us that have maps or have modified maps that work for certain units?

Diode kit for when your turn signals flash like hazard lights because one of the inline diodes went bad

https://www.kuryakyn.com/products/719/diode-kit

You will need to strip the wires back a bit behind the headlamp

Tesa Wire Loom Harness Tape- This is the cloth tape the wiring is wrapped in available on Amazon or euro parts house

Folks, thanks for the positive feedback and the suggestions. At the moment I'm going to avoid adding generic / upgrade / bling stuff . This is all about "keeping the bikes running" And I decided the best thing to do is copy all your knowledge up into the original first post, that way you won't need to trawl through pages of posts to find what you want. If you see any blatant mistakes please P.M. me.

TonyA, as far as I can see EBC list only two brake pads for the 961, however if I look on Ebay there are three coming up. Does your bike have 2 or 4 pads in each caliper?

Jan Nelder thanks for the chain info. any idea how much they want for them ? Perhaps a group buy could be setup ?

jan nelder said:

rear chain: I spoke to Talon two weeks ago, and they have a lot of 525 rear chains bought for Norton and not used.

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Unless you’re wanting to keep it all oem original, I’d go with the ThreeD chains instead.

Yes , I can vouch that Gold Fren 141 is the pads for the Gold Axial Brembo calipers and
Gold Fren 152 is the rear so seems to match the Grey calipers .
Lets not forget the Triumph tip over sensor that is an exact replacement for the 961 Tip over sensor :
Switch , Fall Detection T2502405

I was chatting today to a guy who rebuilt a very early 961 for racing. He was a bit hazy on specifics as it was 8 years ago, but he did mention that mechanical parts bore more than a passing resemblance to small block Chev parts.

cliffa said:

Folks, thanks for the positive feedback and the suggestions. At the moment I'm going to avoid adding generic / upgrade / bling stuff . This is all about "keeping the bikes running" And I decided the best thing to do is copy all your knowledge up into the original first post, that way you won't need to trawl through pages of posts to find what you want. If you see any blatant mistakes please P.M. me.

TonyA, as far as I can see EBC list only two brake pads for the 961, however if I look on Ebay there are three coming up. Does your bike have 2 or 4 pads in each caliper?

Jan Nelder thanks for the chain info. any idea how much they want for them ? Perhaps a group buy could be setup ?

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the staff at the event weren’t really sure, and said maybe about £35, but that was show price. So need to contact the company!

cliffa said:

Folks, thanks for the positive feedback and the suggestions. At the moment I'm going to avoid adding generic / upgrade / bling stuff . This is all about "keeping the bikes running" And I decided the best thing to do is copy all your knowledge up into the original first post, that way you won't need to trawl through pages of posts to find what you want. If you see any blatant mistakes please P.M. me.

TonyA, as far as I can see EBC list only two brake pads for the 961, however if I look on Ebay there are three coming up. Does your bike have 2 or 4 pads in each caliper?

Jan Nelder thanks for the chain info. any idea how much they want for them ? Perhaps a group buy could be setup ?

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2 pads in each caliper . It looks like the chart matches what was listed earlier :

Axial Calipers : Front EBC FA244HH
Rear : FA266HH

TonyA said:

2 pads in each caliper . It looks like the chart matches what was listed earlier :

Axial Calipers : Front EBC FA244HH
Rear : FA266HH

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Hi Tony, yes I did a lot more research and think I got the pads right, but added a little more to the description to help identify which are which.

If you look below the Modern Norton forum, you will see a "Sub-forum" that will take you to the new Alternative Parts list. I will be adding to it and making it look nicer. I am trying to keep things under certain categories. You will see this page change over time and I might move it up to the resources section, not sure yet. Stay tuned...

Just a heads up. Ive had a customers bike fail on me with a Durite relay, for which I need to now do a 3-4hr round trip to rectify. His symptoms are blowing the 5a (euro 4 bike) the moment he turns on the main beam. I had another eight Durites delivered yesterday and one of those eight are doing the same thing with another euro4 bike Ive got in. Coil resistance on the faulty relay is 0.3ohm, good they're 98/99ohm. So probably worth checking the coils resistance before fitting.
The Durites are a diode relay, and the blue Norton relays are resistor types. I'm not 100% on interchangeability.... I'm waiting for more info.

Stu Bodycote said:

Just a heads up. Ive had a customers bike fail on me with a Durite relay, for which I need to now do a 3-4hr round trip to rectify. His symptoms are blowing the 5a (euro 4 bike) the moment he turns on the main beam. I had another eight Durites delivered yesterday and one of those eight are doing the same thing with another euro4 bike Ive got in. Coil resistance on the faulty relay is 0.3ohm, good they're 98/99ohm. So probably worth checking the coils resistance before fitting.
The Durites are a diode relay, and the blue Norton relays are resistor types. I'm not 100% on interchangeability.... I'm waiting for more info.

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Thanks for the heads up Stu. Let us know how it goes and if you think it's a general issue we can take them off the list.

We tend to stay away from Durite.

Alternate relay- Bosch Automotive 332201107

City Garage said:

We tend to stay away from Durite.

Alternate relay- Bosch Automotive 332201107

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You had a few issues as well then chap?
And cheers for the Bosch number...I'll get on those.

Stu Bodycote said:

You had a few issues as well then chap?
And cheers for the Bosch number...I'll get on those.

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yes, they also run hotter than omron or bosch which I think leads to quicker failures. That's just my observations but from using a temperature gun to check them as well.