That sounds like a pretty convincing set of reasons to go for the later ones! I'm clueless on the subject of mainstands as I've never had oneThe later stands don't have a big toe crusher, they work with the tires most use, bikes don't fall over, they don't have a tiny stop on each side that wears out quickly, the bottom frame members don't bend upwards. and so on...
The only thing I find worse on those frames is the terrible side stand and that's even though I absolutely hate making the frame mounted stands somewhat usable!
Of course, that's just me - whatever floats you boat
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omg the bike fell over once already on that flimsy side stand.The later stands don't have a big toe crusher, they work with the tires most use, bikes don't fall over, they don't have a tiny stop on each side that wears out quickly, the bottom frame members don't bend upwards. and so on...
The only thing I find worse on those frames is the terrible side stand and that's even though I absolutely hate making the frame mounted stands somewhat usable!
Of course, that's just me - whatever floats you boat
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oh I might look into that 961 switch. Not looking at originality of this bike just functionality lol
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so no need to drill if using the conversion bushing hmm. thanksThe 06.4057 bush diameter that fits into the cradle is (approximately) 0.557".
There is also a conversion bush 06.4873 to fit the later stand to the earlier cradle.
(I believe .628" should be 0.682" as that is the 06.4057 pivot larger diameter section)
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Hey MichealD , u from Toronto? I am just in Niagara. Did u mean the original center stand can crush your toes? what's an alternative e to the side stand? I fo need to hold my bike up somehow. I'm currently tearing diwn to frame now to prepare and paint it. This bike will be a riderThe later stands don't have a big toe crusher, they work with the tires most use, bikes don't fall over, they don't have a tiny stop on each side that wears out quickly, the bottom frame members don't bend upwards. and so on...
The only thing I find worse on those frames is the terrible side stand and that's even though I absolutely hate making the frame mounted stands somewhat usable!
Of course, that's just me - whatever floats you boat
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Why epuld I buy the 69 stand from andover when it's still weak. I shoukd be putting tge updated one on there? I have no idea what yo do with the sidestand.
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I thought the original stand for earlier frames were no good and the later ones were improved.
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Hey MichealD , u from Toronto? I am just in Niagara. Did u mean the original center stand can crush your toes? what's an alternative e to the side stand? I fo need to hold my bike up somehow. I'm currently tearing diwn to frame now to prepare and paint it. This bike will be a rider
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Why epuld I buy the 69 stand from andover when it's still weak. I shoukd be putting tge updated one on there? I have no idea what yo do with the sidestand.
That looks like a later (1971-on) frame with the front cross tube and early side stand bracket and maybe a later cradle with the two oil filter holes.
Picture shows another four(?) holes in the frame that shouldn't be there.
Side stand is a bolt on type.
A 1969 model also wouldn't have that type of oil tank (frame hole thread picture).
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The later sidestand bracket is available as a weld-on item, and I did this conversion to my '71 frame.
From recollection, Old Britts had a set of instructions for this, but I can't find them since they departed the business - maybe someone has a copy?
Here's the A-N frame spares page - a good reference
From recollection, Old Britts had a set of instructions for this, but I can't find them since they departed the business - maybe someone has a copy?
Here's the A-N frame spares page - a good reference
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I'm from England. It wasn't me that made the comment about crushing toes, I didn't understand that comment at all, but I've never had a centre stand on the bike since buying it 48 years ago.
The 69 stand isn't weak, you just have to be careful where you park the bike. I'm OK with only having the sidestand, and my frame was chromed when I bought the bike, so welding bits onto the frame would make such a mess that I'd have to get the whole frame painted. That isn't something that would make sense to me, but your circumstances are different.
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Fendermanz's frame doesn't appear to be '69 so the early frame mounted stand wouldn't fit.
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I made the toe crusher comment. On the back of the center stand is a little arm that sticks out. You can put your foot on it to assist with putting the bike on the stand. I have a 69S with that stand. I've seen two people put their toes at the back of the stand as they bring the bike up on the stand. It's almost comical to watch them jump around, yell, and try to get that little lever off their big toe! It's not at all funny when it falls over against a just completed bike and you have to fix both bikes.
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So if my frame usn't a 69, what is it?
If it's not a 69, what is it? I'm trying to order the correct parts. I hear the upgraded center stand us better. I'd orefer to use a center stand if I could. it has tge short dude stand on it now but it doesn't hold the bike up well. I appreciate your thoughts.
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From your picture it's a 1971 (or slightly later) frame as it has the pin type side stand bracket and front cross member.
The side stand it currently has appears to be a bolt-on type.
The centre stand would be the type that bolts to the cradle.
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ty. Yes I was puzzled when people said my centre stand was a frame bolt on and there's no crossmember in that region lol It's in the front. I see the cradle lol. thank you buddy! I want to order parts but need to make sure I'm getting the correct ones.
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Its the ' under ' side stand , so P. r. pipes will go on it . 
Looks pretty good .
Looks pretty good .
