Joe Hunt magneto photos (2012)

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RennieK said:
Thanks for a great post Ken, that really clears things up. I take it the cam chain alignment is ok with the old sprocket set and I see everything clears inside the newer timing cover after taking down the pinion shaft boss.
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I should have mentioned that the Commando cam chain shoe has to be spaced out a bit to work with the Atlas chain alignment. That's what the aluminum spacer in the picture near the shoe is for. It's the one with the blue Dykem still on it.

Ken
 
jseng1 said:
You should have kept the Hunt mag on and crashed it instead of the rare ARD mag.
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But Jim, the ARD wasn't a "rare" mag when I first started using them. You could buy all of them you wanted from ARD. It only got rare after Alan stopped making them 15 or 20 years later.

Ken
 
personally I think it is a big ugly eye sore regardless of how well it performs its ugly and looks like crap.
Dox
 
DOXFORD said:
personally I think it is a big ugly eye sore regardless of how well it performs its ugly and looks like crap.
Dox
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When mounted outside the timing cover you are absolutely right, mounted behind the cylinder it looks just great.
 
bri1955 said:
Joe Hunt magneto photos (2012)


I still debate taking it off, replacing it with a Boyer and selling the Hunt. I too worry about what would happen to the Hunt if I crashed the bike. I'd be out quite an expensive part.

What to do...
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If you remove it you will be sorry. If you crash it you could die so forget about that. Your friends are just jealous and don't know what they are missing. In an ideal world, Norton could have made the Cmdo cases so you could revert back to the magneto behind the cylinders - requiring only a change of spacers etc. Just consider it a conversation piece and keep thinking about your first kick starts and fried electronic ignitions (and all those dead batteries). Add up all the dead batteries in your life and you are probably saving $ with a mag.
 
I don't care what anyone says about my Joe Hunt maggie hanging off the side, it works well, it drives straight off the cam, has no chains or sprockets to worry about as well all the work and machining that you need to do to fit it behind the cylinders and as far as I care I recond it looks great , easy to set up and service, I have all my timing marks marked on the inside of the maggie mount so when I need to do any work on my maggie I just pull it off and work on it on the bench, when finished I just put it back on my settings and all is still tuned, but 18 months and 10,000 miles on the bike I have done nothing to it, sitting on the outside it is kept cool from fresh air flow, but every one to their own, I know I will never go back to any other system for my Norton, they are so good.

Ashley
 
ashman said:
I don't care what anyone says about my Joe Hunt maggie hanging off the side, it works well, it drives straight off the cam, has no chains or sprockets to worry about

Ashley
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Except the chain and sprockets that drive the cam of course :D

Great ingnition solution, surely....but for a race bike I can't see getting it comfortably behind the fairing! anyone?

Steve
 
You used to get alloy ' engine bars ' for the Katanas & the like , that bolted onto the front mount .
Pretty basic alloy yachtish thing , a plate and a arm out swung back ' L ' shape . Prevents scrapeing cases .

Of course ' somebody ' wished to grind the thing on the deck with ' somebody ' pillion . No good unscraped 1 :lol:

SO , a little 1/4 x 2 in alloy sheet dohicky would be a abrasion fence , if nailed on & out from the front Iso .
You can reach down from the saddle , and feel if the H.T. leads are leaking , with it there , too . :D :mrgreen:
 
You can find an Atlas right side case and send it to Steve Maney and he will make a heavy duty left side case that won't crack. He used to offer to match his heavy duty left side case to an existing right side case. I'll ask him.
 
Why aren't smaller mags available? Is there a reason people are using a mag designed in the stone age other than they look old?
 
swooshdave said:
Why aren't smaller mags available? Is there a reason people are using a mag designed in the stone age other than they look old?
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You mean like the unobtainium ARD?
 
swooshdave said:
willh said:
swooshdave said:
Why aren't smaller mags available? Is there a reason people are using a mag designed in the stone age other than they look old?
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You mean like the unobtainium ARD?
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Didn't that have a separate coil?
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I believe so, but self generating and small... haven't seen anything else available other than BTH, lucas, Morris, etc. all old and big.

Wasn't someone trying to get the rights to ARD...
 
willh said:
haven't seen anything else available other than BTH, lucas, Morris, etc. all old and big.

Wasn't someone trying to get the rights to ARD...
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The "new" BT-H is the only thing I've seen new in the magneto department lately. Very nicely made, easy to time, etc. But nothing other than a flange mount for twins:

http://bt-h.biz/twin_mag.htm

I would have been interested in an ARD at the time I was looking for a modern alternative for my Velo. Stumbled on to the BT-H, and was glad I did. If you want to see some really cool magnetos, check out Morris:

http://www.morrismagneto.com/

Nothing British except for Triumph, but the dual magneto for the H-D is a real trip. Got the right amount of excess that Harley lovers gotta have! And don't forget the lovely Fairbanks-Morse!
 
Brithit said:
willh said:
haven't seen anything else available other than BTH, lucas, Morris, etc. all old and big.

Wasn't someone trying to get the rights to ARD...
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The "new" BT-H is the only thing I've seen new in the magneto department lately. Very nicely made, easy to time, etc. But nothing other than a flange mount for twins:

http://bt-h.biz/twin_mag.htm
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500 quid!

If someone could figure out how to make mags for $500 they would sell all day.
 
Someone should re-introduce the late model ARD (after checking for any necessary upgrades). They would make a killing (hint). Or redesign the Joe Hunt so it is smaller. I make modifications to the rear mount Hunts that I sell to make them much easier to time & adjust. I have tried to get the Hunt people to adopt my upgrades but of course that is impossible - so I do them in house before I send them out.

BTW
Steve Maney no longer offers to match a new left side case to an existing right side case such an Atlas with rear mount for mag - bummer.
 
jseng1 said:
Someone should re-introduce the late model ARD. They would make a killing (hint). Or redesign the Joe Hunt so it is smaller. I make modifications to the rear mount Hunts that I sell to make them much easier to time & adjust. I have tried to get the Hunt people to adopt my upgrades but of course that is impossible - so I do them in house before I send them out.

BTW
Steve Maney no longer offers to match a new left side case to an existing right side case such an Atlas with rear mount for mag - bummer.
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The silly thing is that the ARD should be copied. I have yet to see a patent on it, although people think there is one. If the old guy doesn't want to make them anymore, and won't sell the plans, send one to Asia. They'll have it reverse-engineered before the box hits the floor.
 
DOXFORD said:
personally I think it is a big ugly eye sore regardless of how well it performs its ugly and looks like crap.
Dox
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Ha! I agree, it is ugly and looks a little like crap, but works like gold and I have no plans on making this bike into a beauty queen. I plan to ride this girl.
 
comnoz, Jim, Ken,

What would you charge for welding an early 750 rear timing section on an 850 MKIII case or other 850? Provided that the customer furnished the to-be-modded case and donor case, for the mod.
Curious and assume others would like to know.
 
I've never liked the way that the Hunt magneto stuck out from the side of the timing cover, very vulnerable in a crash.
As others have posted, you can mount it behind the barrels with a lot of internal timing cover / crankcase rework.
If you want to go battery less, you could try http://www.electrexworld.co.uk that makes self generating kits that replaces the stator & rotor of a Lucas alternator & comes with CDI & HT leads.
But I suppose you still have the electronic black box problem you don't have with a magneto.
 
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