Hello to all of you! I am a new one in this forum!
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swooshdave said:
Probably I should stay out of this, but the point is, Bazz, a lot of people like to bust other guys' chops about all kinds of things if they know them well enough. Hell, I do it as a lifestyle every day, and it's my way of showing affection to the people I like. In the case of an internet bulletin board, however, no one knows you or can tell if your natural inclination is to be a butthole or if you just like to josh people in a friendly let's-have-a-round-of-drinks-and bust-each-other's-balls sort of way.
Chris mentioned he spent 2 or 3 years lurking on this site before he ever decided to present himself or his bike (which I like very much, by the way) to the forum, which tells me that his desire is to have himself and his bike accepted by the members for what it is: Something he's proud to show to others. If you like to give your opinions, feel free, just please don't do it to someone who probably very much likes to be accepted by others. We all do.
I don't think the way you expressed yourself was meant in a mean way, but it certainly could be taken as such. As swooshdave implied, there's a lot of ways to ask about features you don't like without ever letting on you don't really like them, and lots of ways to say what you do like, too.
You apparently think folks on this site are overly courteous to one another to the point they keep their opinions to themselves. Is that really such a bad thing?
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Thank you for the warm welcome!
Some words…
To Allan W:
the batterie is under the seat …a cheap 10euro, 7AH dry batterie…normaly applied to alarm systems….
The small motorcycle dry batteries are too expensive. And if there is no electric start no starter batterie for 100 euros is needed.
To Coco:
from time to time I find a basket in front of my door filled with food, wine and fresh fruits as a big “thankyou!” from my neighbours for the Dunstall-spiced-Commando-alarm-clock when I kickstart my moped to drive to work in the morning! :lol:
Yes they love me!!!!
To Bazz:
in motorcycle culture people always transformed their bikes to something special. Without those people who changed ready made bikes from the assembly line to caferacers, choppers, flattrackers or boppers some brilliant improvements would have never become reality.
The industry always things money. The freaks amongst the motorcyclists push new ideas!
If the british industry would have been not "ashamed" for new designs and ideas in the late seventies then very probably we still could go to see great brands of british motorcycles in the shopping windows today .
I posted this pictures of my bike because I think many people like to see Commandos as I do.
To get inspiration or maybe to see something they would never build.
Not to aggrandize myself.
I got no problem to meet with criticism.
But i would call japanese plastic bombers with usb hubs for maintenance as ugly. Not a custom Commando.
Some words to the gorgeous Norton style:
this is a Manx tank [inspired from the georgeous Norton 500cc Manx]
These are high level ss-pipes [FYI: also georgeous Norton style…from the very rare 750ss]
Ad burnt legs… Yes of course!
And sometimes in town traffic my back hurts cause of the clip ons….
So what!?! If I want a safe, clean bike from the production line then I take a Honda Transalp or so…..
And I payed too much penalty to the police for speeding.
And I never ever want crash with my shabby classic davida helmet.
But I live and love the british rocker style! Nothing to do with rational thinking and keep oldtimers only on sunny july sundays going.
I use my Commando every day. Depending on snow situation from march to december.
And I live in Austria, not in Australia!
Ad tritons…In my opinion the Commando engine is the best of the great british motorcycle industry...as for reliability as for performance as for maintenance as for anything else…I like isolastics [I do many km…got no car]…..I like pre-unit engines….the cradle of the commando works best compared to other plates of pre-units!
I don`t like the exterior tapped rod tubes, the attached rocker boxes and tiny rocker inspection covers of the most Triumph engines.
I like the Commando clutch etc, etc…
So…why should I build a Triton? Other caferacer I had was a BSA Rocket Goldstar Replica.
Or I would think about building a Guzzi Le Mans caferacer…..but not a Triton.
The Triton is not my dream machine.
Mine is a Norton Commando caferacer.
Chris
Some words…
To Allan W:
the batterie is under the seat …a cheap 10euro, 7AH dry batterie…normaly applied to alarm systems….
The small motorcycle dry batteries are too expensive. And if there is no electric start no starter batterie for 100 euros is needed.
To Coco:
from time to time I find a basket in front of my door filled with food, wine and fresh fruits as a big “thankyou!” from my neighbours for the Dunstall-spiced-Commando-alarm-clock when I kickstart my moped to drive to work in the morning! :lol:
Yes they love me!!!!
To Bazz:
in motorcycle culture people always transformed their bikes to something special. Without those people who changed ready made bikes from the assembly line to caferacers, choppers, flattrackers or boppers some brilliant improvements would have never become reality.
The industry always things money. The freaks amongst the motorcyclists push new ideas!
If the british industry would have been not "ashamed" for new designs and ideas in the late seventies then very probably we still could go to see great brands of british motorcycles in the shopping windows today .
I posted this pictures of my bike because I think many people like to see Commandos as I do.
To get inspiration or maybe to see something they would never build.
Not to aggrandize myself.
I got no problem to meet with criticism.
But i would call japanese plastic bombers with usb hubs for maintenance as ugly. Not a custom Commando.
Some words to the gorgeous Norton style:
this is a Manx tank [inspired from the georgeous Norton 500cc Manx]
These are high level ss-pipes [FYI: also georgeous Norton style…from the very rare 750ss]
Ad burnt legs… Yes of course!
And sometimes in town traffic my back hurts cause of the clip ons….
So what!?! If I want a safe, clean bike from the production line then I take a Honda Transalp or so…..
And I payed too much penalty to the police for speeding.
And I never ever want crash with my shabby classic davida helmet.
But I live and love the british rocker style! Nothing to do with rational thinking and keep oldtimers only on sunny july sundays going.
I use my Commando every day. Depending on snow situation from march to december.
And I live in Austria, not in Australia!
Ad tritons…In my opinion the Commando engine is the best of the great british motorcycle industry...as for reliability as for performance as for maintenance as for anything else…I like isolastics [I do many km…got no car]…..I like pre-unit engines….the cradle of the commando works best compared to other plates of pre-units!
I don`t like the exterior tapped rod tubes, the attached rocker boxes and tiny rocker inspection covers of the most Triumph engines.
I like the Commando clutch etc, etc…
So…why should I build a Triton? Other caferacer I had was a BSA Rocket Goldstar Replica.
Or I would think about building a Guzzi Le Mans caferacer…..but not a Triton.
The Triton is not my dream machine.
Mine is a Norton Commando caferacer.
Chris
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Bazz said:
gall-durn kids and der rck n roll musik, messin evrthing up
yeah what ever gramps! :roll:
looks great! ton-up!
grandpaul
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Chris, don't feel TOO bad (hee hee)
I posted a recent shot of my client's almost-finished cafe Commando with light blue frame and polished alloy tank (see "Will's bike" thread), and a guy on another forum actually said (praphrased) that it was the UGLIEST Norton he'd ever seen! he expounded on the ills of using a Manx style tank on anything but a Manx, and using a "bum stop" cafe seat with Red piping on a Commando, as it upset the clean lines and color combinations (or something to that effect). His elaborate crucifixion of the use of a light colored paint on the frame totally ruining the contrast of the alloy engine went on ad nauseum.
Some of the folks on the forum immediately rose to my defence, others offered much more polite negative criticism. Anyway, I posted a point-by-point rebuttal, mainly focused on the fact that IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT THE CLIENT ORDERED, and he replied quite politely (still insistent that he disliked it altogether).
I finally had to post the following photo, to prove my point that the light blue framed cafe Commando was NOT the ugliest Norton ever....
I posted a recent shot of my client's almost-finished cafe Commando with light blue frame and polished alloy tank (see "Will's bike" thread), and a guy on another forum actually said (praphrased) that it was the UGLIEST Norton he'd ever seen! he expounded on the ills of using a Manx style tank on anything but a Manx, and using a "bum stop" cafe seat with Red piping on a Commando, as it upset the clean lines and color combinations (or something to that effect). His elaborate crucifixion of the use of a light colored paint on the frame totally ruining the contrast of the alloy engine went on ad nauseum.
Some of the folks on the forum immediately rose to my defence, others offered much more polite negative criticism. Anyway, I posted a point-by-point rebuttal, mainly focused on the fact that IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT THE CLIENT ORDERED, and he replied quite politely (still insistent that he disliked it altogether).
I finally had to post the following photo, to prove my point that the light blue framed cafe Commando was NOT the ugliest Norton ever....
grandpaul
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You can't tell from the photos, but LOTS of parts are WELDED onto the frame! The Miller welding company sponsored him, I think. He also won a trophy for "longest rear brake actuator rod in the Western hemisphere", and Ace hardware gave him thier own award for "most extensive use of hose clamps & U-bolts to hold parts on a motorcycle".
Hortons Norton
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Paul I think that it was said before about this bike, Don't do drugs and build a motorcycle. It was probably the coolest thing to the guy that built it, It looks so Hippyish. Me, I'm glad the 70's are over. In the right light it may look better.
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Hey, Nice bike Chris! Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting the pics and info on your bike!
Let's not forget what the original Norton Style is all about. Anyone could have bought a brand spankin new Norton Commando production racer as well as a Gus Kahn or Dunstall cafe style bike back in the 70's. Many of us here will agree those too were "original Norton style" bikes also. To say only roadsters and interstates comprise the original norton style is an understatement IMHO. There's been Norton Cafe racers as long as there have been Norton Motorcycles!
Bazz said:
Let's not forget what the original Norton Style is all about. Anyone could have bought a brand spankin new Norton Commando production racer as well as a Gus Kahn or Dunstall cafe style bike back in the 70's. Many of us here will agree those too were "original Norton style" bikes also. To say only roadsters and interstates comprise the original norton style is an understatement IMHO. There's been Norton Cafe racers as long as there have been Norton Motorcycles!
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grandpaul said:
The 70s were tough on some people, and apparently tougher on some.
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Nice. I call mine (when it was/is running) the old Norton alarm clock as well. My neieghbour's dogs wake me up at 6:30 am every morning but when my MKIII is running again I'll scare the crap out of those dogs once and for all.[/quote]
AMEN !!! :twisted:
AMEN !!! :twisted:
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Chris:
That is a seriously fun bike.
I'm midway through a frame up restoration of a 72 Combat so I can appreciate the effort you've put into the customizing you've done.
You mentioned " cv from a series 7 BMW " and I'm looking to put one on my crankcase vent line.
Can you give me a more detailed description of it so I can easily get one from my BMW dealer.
Thanks
Bob
That is a seriously fun bike.
I'm midway through a frame up restoration of a 72 Combat so I can appreciate the effort you've put into the customizing you've done.
You mentioned " cv from a series 7 BMW " and I'm looking to put one on my crankcase vent line.
Can you give me a more detailed description of it so I can easily get one from my BMW dealer.
Thanks
Bob
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mikegray660 said:
Well what do you know, a real live redneck on the forum.
I got hammered when I gave an honest opinion on Chris's bike, yet when I gave a ridiculous positive opinion on the heap in Grandpauls post, no one bats an eye lid. So what's with all this sensitive new age stuff, do we all just say nice things to please evey one.
Bazz
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