Donald Trump is impeached!

jbruney said:

I completely agree, but with the stipulation that Israel should receive continued support/protection. Other than that let the remainder of the region transition to glass on the surface because solar temperatures are the only surefired cure to treat the affliction and prevent the further spread of that and abused goats.
Sorry if this is offensive, but I've just reread my copy of 'A History of the Arab Peoples'. Nice heavy thorough tome which only reinforces my thoughts. They did have great poets, scholars, scientists, architects, etc. prior to all of their recent regressions into insanity. Such a shame too.

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You cannot support/protect/throw money at Israel while claiming neutrality.

The Israeli lobby throws our own money back at us to ensure political favor and the continued death of Americans in a backwards never ending religious war.

jbruney said:

I completely agree, but with the stipulation that Israel should receive continued support/protection. Other than that let the remainder of the region transition to glass on the surface because solar temperatures are the only surefired cure to treat the affliction and prevent the further spread of that and abused goats.
Sorry if this is offensive, but I've just reread my copy of 'A History of the Arab Peoples'. Nice heavy thorough tome which only reinforces my thoughts. They did have great poets, scholars, scientists, architects, etc. prior to all of their recent regressions into insanity. Such a shame too.

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Much like the American society.

jbruney said:

I completely agree, but with the stipulation that Israel should receive continued support/protection. Other than that let the remainder of the region transition to glass on the surface because solar temperatures are the only surefired cure to treat the affliction and prevent the further spread of that and abused goats.
Sorry if this is offensive, but I've just reread my copy of 'A History of the Arab Peoples'. Nice heavy thorough tome which only reinforces my thoughts. They did have great poets, scholars, scientists, architects, etc. prior to all of their recent regressions into insanity. Such a shame too.

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It's not offensive, it's just the truth.
How long are we going to keep pussyfooting around and actually say it like it is
Wherever there is death and strife in the world there's a mosque close by.

trident sam said:

It's not offensive, it's just the truth.
How long are we going to keep pussyfooting around and actually say it like it is
Wherever there is death and strife in the world there's a mosque close by.

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Yeah, because we just dropped a bomb on the hospital next door.
Funny, the same thing could be said about the British flag over the last 600 years.

I'm going to ignore the inherent racism in your post.

The Middle East has become the battle ground for world powers to slug it out without endangering their own territories.

I don't care what you think I am or what you think of me.
In my country the prisons are controlled by Islamic gangs, many of the inner cities are shit holes and no go areas, there are many Muslim rape syndicates, as well as huge benefit payments to non working Muslims.
Their contribution to us is negative.
Join the real world , lefty liberal views get us no where

trident sam said:

I don't care what you think I am or what you think of me.
In my country the prisons are controlled by Islamic gangs, many of the inner cities are shit holes and no go areas, there are many Muslim rape syndicates, as well as huge benefit payments to non working Muslims.
Their contribution to us is negative.
Join the real world , lefty liberal views get us no where

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Sounds like a domestic problem to me. Not a reason to blow half the middle East off the map.

I'm not advocating left or right. I'm advocating intelligence.

At one time in the past they contributed much and helped bring light into the dark, advanced medicine and kept the Roman/Greek knowledge from disappearing.... Whereas they now foment doom, death, rape, and destruction. I'm fearing I find nothing of good to say of their culture in the present tense.... You may call it racist if you wish though it has nothing to do with that in that it is a religion/cultural issue. For the most part what remains of their once perhaps marginally great cultures has degenerated to almost little more than savagery left to their own devices. When dogs go rabid..... Well?

trident sam said:

It's not offensive, it's just the truth.
How long are we going to keep pussyfooting around and actually say it like it is
Wherever there is death and strife in the world there's a mosque close by.

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You seem to have overlooked the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Las Vegas Harvest music festival, Sandy Hook Elementary, Stoneman Douglas High School ..... and on and on. Also, Jewish synagogues seem to attract a lot of violence.

jbruney said:

At one time in the past they contributed much and helped bring light into the dark, advanced medicine and kept the Roman/Greek knowledge from disappearing.... Whereas they now foment doom, death, rape, and destruction. I'm fearing I find nothing of good to say of their culture in the present tense.... You may call it racist if you wish though it has nothing to do with that in that it is a religion/cultural issue. For the most part what remains of their once perhaps marginally great cultures has degenerated to almost little more than savagery left to their own devices. When dogs go rabid..... Well?

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So whom is this "they" you speak of?

You are grouping an incredibly diverse population into a single category and recommending they be shot like a rabid dogs...

I know you are kinder and smarter than to say something like that

JimC said:

You seem to have overlooked the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Las Vegas Harvest music festival, Sandy Hook Elementary, Stoneman Douglas High School ..... and on and on. Also, Jewish synagogues seem to attract a lot of violence.

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White people have complex, psychological motives behind their acts of violence, brown people are just savages!!!

Both Islam and Christianity are religions of peace, people who twist the message of either should not be referred to as Islamic/Christian fundamentalists etc they are, quite simply, terrorists - no other label is needed. The fact that these twisted messages find purchase in places of worship says more about individuals than it does about the religion. Atrocities carried out in the name of a specific religion are just atrocities - not Jewish/Christian/Islamic atrocities.

As they say over the pond, guns don’t kill people, people do.

It's not the colour that is the problem whatsoever.
It is the religion and unfortunately the disposition to turn adopted countries into the same dump they have just got out of.
Like I said it is their religion , brainwashing, indoctrination whatever you want to call it.
I don't know much about the American atrocities but from watching the news they seem to be carried out by dissafected youths or lone crazies, and unfortunately with such a large population there will always be a lot of crack pots .

Skin color/race, etc. has nothing to do with anything. This sideline venture is cultural and religion until the paddling befalls us. You can only criticize a man for what he has allowed himself to become, not for his birth over which he had no control.

trident sam said:

don't know much about the American atrocities but from watching the news they seem to be carried out by dissafected youths or lone crazies, and unfortunately with such a large population there will always be a lot of crack pots .

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Sam,
The same is true of those labelled “Islamic”
I worked for five years in Tower Hamlets, With a population where 95% identify as Muslim. I found the vast majority were hard working, polite, respectful and accepting of others.
There will always be a small minority of disaffected people in every walk of society - unfortunately those who seek to do harm are often given the oxygen of publicity and their actions seem bigger than reality.
I don't seek to change your mind,I suspect that you -like me - take as you find, it is a shame our experiences are so diametrically opposite.
John

I respect what you say John, however the amount of Terrorism from Muslims means I won't agree with you, just look how many Isis attracted.
I have another sense of forboding in that in so many years the population in this country will have swung to a Muslim majority inevitably as they have very large families, will then Mr. Mahmoud vote for Mr. Smith as his MP ?
I think not, so we will have a Muslim government and everything that we hold dear in this country will be gone . Of course , we wont actually be here then
We don't have the right to sacrifice our country to Islam.
sam

Perspective is important, those who live is countries where Islam is in the majority consider the strikes by western governments to be state sponsored terrorism - I don’t necessarily agree but they say it is!
Your post was interesting in that Colonel Gaddafi said the same thing 35 years ago, he decried terrorist acts in the west saying that with a decline in western birth rates, Muslims would become the majority of the population in a few generations, all they needed to do was wait.

Lord, I have been so busy lately working on this really great job, I haven't had time to read any of the demented stuff some of the deranged Trump haters write... but I'm here now, and you haven't disappointed me.

NPeteN said:

Yeah, because we just dropped a bomb on the hospital next door.
Funny, the same thing could be said about the British flag over the last 600 years.

I'm going to ignore the inherent racism in your post.

The Middle East has become the battle ground for world powers to slug it out without endangering their own territories.

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Mentioning that you are going to ignore something, is not ignoring it...

Interesting turn to this thread, I aggree with much of what's been said by many who disagree with me on just about everything.

I have done a lot of work for american muslims. Many of them were educated professionals. One microsoft guy hugged me on the last day on his job because my partner and I had helped he and his wife customize his house in certain places. His wife is now a seattle legislator with some weird liberal policies, but one of the nicest people you would ever want to meet. I wouldn't judge them or any of the other muslims I know by some terrorist ideology. One muslim home builder I know is a typical american.... He only cares that he has to pay us more than he'd like to for the beautiful work we do for him... He's americanized in that way, but quite a nice person with the exception of being a cheapskate, which is hardly something related to his religion...

On the other hand, as I said a few pages ago, cultures and their inherent tribalism present a lot of problems. It's easy to point the finger outside your own culture and say, "Those people are fucked up". It's very hard to point that same finger at your own culture without being defensive about your culture's own bad behavior.

There's no doubt that all cultures have tribal tendencies that either, turn a blind eye to, or in some cases justify, some horrible behavior. Italians justified the mafia's existance. The Irish justified the IRA bombings. Isreali's justify their settlement practices displacing muslims. Black americans justify their violent youth culture. Pick a culture and they probably have some ugly treatment of "outsiders", but then justify some of their own culture's behavior with a claim of some provocation.

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When I heard that this iranian guy got assasinated, I didn't know until the next day that america (Trump) did the deed, and I was a little shocked since he said that he wanted us out of endless, useless wars in the middle east. No doubt Iran has been trying to fuck us over since we supported the Shah of Iran's brutal regime. Iranians are actually pretty westernized and cosmopolitan people by middle east standards. Their government is more of the hard line muslims ideologs. The people aren't at all uneducated "goat herders". The ironic thing is that Iranians are probably more compatible with westerners than most of the other less developed muslim countries in that region, some who are still ruled by warlords or strongman governments.

We shall see where this takes us. I think for all you Trump haters, nothing he does will be good enough, but this is the real test of Trump in a situation where talk isn't going to mean anything. It will be what action do you take, and what are the results....

On other notes, Nancy Pelosi asked me if she could send the impeachment documents to my house for safe storage. I told her, "Sure, I always need some paper to start the woodstove!"...

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Stuff's no good for TP substitute anyway so you'd just as soon burn it and reclaim some of your tax dollars that went into it.

Welcome back Frank. Now that DT is playing with American lives (and has shown himself a liar yet again) what are your thoughts on the Presidents recently announced plans to destroy Iranian cultural sites specifically? Does it bother you that this is a direct violation of the Geneva convention?

Did it bother you that DT discussed the Iranian assassination plan with Netanyahu and Mar-a-Lago dinner guests instead of with Congress?

Did you read the article about Republicans stalling the Senate vote on Campaign finance reform from earlier?

NPeteN said:

Welcome back Frank. Now that DT is playing with American lives (and has shown himself a liar yet again) what are your thoughts on the Presidents recently announced plans to destroy Iranian cultural sites specifically? Does it bother you that this is a direct violation of the Geneva convention?

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Which Iranian cultural sites are you referring to exactly?

NPeteN said:

Did it bother you that DT discussed the Iranian assassination plan with Netanyahu and Mar-a-Lago dinner guests instead of with Congress?

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Do you trust members of any organization who continuously swear that they have evidence that you are a "puppet" of a vlad Putin, when in fact that same organization created the fake evidence to prove the lie, which the Obama appointed FBI director then leaked it's phoney contents to the NY times to create a demand for an investigation, to start an impeachment which was all an attempt to undo the lawful election of this president.

When that plan didn't generate an impeachment, they used the anonymous whistleblower method of impeachment, but since it's actually a charade, they can't send it to the senate for trial, because then Joe and Hunter Biden will be called to testify along with Adam Shiff and a whole host of others who will have to reverse all their accusations under oath.

You mean consult those traitors??

NPeteN said:

Did you read the article about Republicans stalling the Senate vote on Campaign finance reform from earlier?

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I figure no matter how much money republicans raise, they will never match the Fund raising ability of Joe and Hunter Biden, or the payback schemes of the Clinton foundation. I think when Al Gore sold his 7 year old broadcast network to Al jazeera america for $500,000,000. that was another payoff too.

Do you think it's right that AOC and other democrats say, "Don't vote for old white guys?" Are we calling out white people for tribalism, but no one else?

I think you throw a mean stone, but you don't see the glass houses on both sides of the street.