will my MK3 pull a 24t front sprocket?

Witha 54% balance factor a Commando is definirely detuned. The Norton twin probably performed better when it was an Atlas.

Regardless of the balance factor how can the (claimed) 56 BHP, 8.9:1 compression ratio 750 Commando engine possibly be considered a "detuned" (claimed) 49 BHP 7.6:1 Atlas engine?

But the Atlas did not sell. An Atlas is a development of the 650SS. A 650SS was probably better.

Yes, because it was really no better in terms of performance than the 650SS but as I understand it, the American market demanded a 750.

Back in those days,...

There you go again, more off-topic (CB 750 etc.) rambling.

Don't get me wrong, for what they are Commandos are excellent. They are not designed to race.

Well, of course, they were not designed to race. They were designed as a means of transport the same as the Atlas.
 
Since the OP’s question relates to two variables (gearing and altitude) he might be interested in roughly calculating jetting changes (which roughly translate into power losses) by doing a desk exercise on this site intended for airplane guys. In other words, he is thinking about gearing way up to a 24 tooth c/s sprocket while losing horsepower to increased altitude.



I used this site for years roadracing with AHRMA, where we raced at elevations from sea level and 60 degrees F in Daytona to Miller, at 4500 feet and 85 degrees F, and most relevant for the OP, we raced at Willow Springs, in the Antelope Valley at say, 80 degrees. Needless to say, getting jetting even in the ballpark in that range of temps and altitudes was always a challenge and this site really helped get it in the ballpark. I used Mikuni carburetors, which number their jets in very rough proportion to their flow, so a percentage change in air very roughly translated to a change in main jet which made jetting off this calculator conceptually easy.

You can get real numbers from the weather service. But you can calculate percentage changes for comparison purposes using plug numbers—100% air is about sea level, 30.0 barometer, and 60 degrees F, and the calculation is not very sensitive to humidity, dew point or barometer, so for a rough desktop calculation of how much power you’ll lose to elevation you can use 30.0 for barometer in both parts of the comparison, sea level and 2500 feet for elevation, and 60 degrees and expected Antelope Valley temperatures (80?) for when you will run, and knock off say 30% of the temperatures for dew point just to plug something in.

So that’s a lot of words but cutting to the chase what you’ll find (if my recollection of my calculations for Willow Springs is right ) is that you’ll be running through the traps with 92% air— so you might do something like jetting down that much to be in the ballpark, and expect something akin to that much power loss, for comparison purposes only. With, let’s say, something like 92% of the power as you would have at sea level, or something like just a bit less than 10% power loss you’d lose something like 4 hp on a 50 horse engine — certainly nothing precise here but it gives you an idea of power loss to altitude—and you are proposing gearing the thing up 20%, with less power. I’ve never raced my street 850 Commando, but my impression is it’s gearing is maybe a bit short with a 20 tooth c/s and it might be able to pull maybe one more tooth on the c/s at sea level but possibly not with 8% less power. Anyway, this is just another thing to consider to rough in an answer to your gearing question for running at altitude.

By the way, this site now contains a link to a similar calculator for engine tuners

https://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_da...m above it calculates a 14% power loss, FWIW.
Hmm, I made my post a bit garbled and perhaps hard to understand because I somehow moved the link to the website from the big space two lines into the post at the top, down to immediately below the engine tuners link towards the bottom of my post, which made the point of my post somewhat hard to figure out until you read the whole thing. The original link, which should have appeared in the space after the first two lines of my post, is this: https://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_da_rh.htm Sorry!! This is a very useful link for getting into the ballpark on jetting if you know your base jetting at 100% air, which is usually approximated by stock jetting.

Oh, and I should explain, the question related to gearing at El Mirage, and the Willow Springs jetting example I used is relevant to El Mirage because it is in the same general area in the Antelope Valley of California and at only slightly less altitude. Anyway, sorry if any confusion resulted. If you use the jetting calculator you'll see a rough estimate of the power loss from operating at that elevation--somewhere in the neighborhood of 8% to 14% power loss. My bottom line remains, in light of the power loss, a 24 tooth countershaft sprocket sounds like way too much gear for a stock 850 Mk 3 engine, but the OP should go ahead and try it out if he wants--jetting is at the end of the day very particular to the machine and place.
 
Ever had the feeling you are wasting your time?

If I'd spotted that post sooner I would have deleted it as it's another acotrel off-topic racing ramble. :(
Sorry L.A.B. sometimes you gotta laugh just so you don’t start crying!
 
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