What’s the best none Norton Norton ?

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I'm hoping this will be produced in mass numbers eventually. The only fully balanced large capacity 360° parallel twin in the world and made by a tiny crew as their passion. Looks like a proper bike !
 

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Let's define what kind of bike the Norton Commando is (or was) - I mean which market segment it filled - and I *may* tell you its proper heir.

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I'm hoping this will be produced in mass numbers eventually. The only fully balanced large capacity 360° parallel twin in the world and made by a tiny crew as their passion. Looks like a proper bike !
Nice bike. I wonder what the price tag is - 150K USD?
Not a twin, but equally situated in the luxury bike segment and probably just as smooth is the Horex VR6. It's price tag is a "mere" 38.500 Euro upwards for the classic line model. Of course there are more expensive versions, including cafe racers.

-Knut
 

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Where’s the Ohlins going, front or rear ?

I put longer Ohlins on the rear of my Dyna S and they’re great! The thing was way too low as stock, then of course there’s the infinitely superior performance. Haven’t done the forks as they seem quite good, for my riding at least.

You‘re a bad man. Got me looking at 117” kits again…!
Ohlins front and rear.
can’t decide between the screaming seagulls 131 or the 128 S&S.
 

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I forgot about your TFC , and the stock Harley won't stay stock will it ? :)
Bobber will stay stock. But I do have a decat x pipe for it that I haven’t installed yet.

the Harley will be a money pit.
 
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I'm hoping this will be produced in mass numbers eventually. The only fully balanced large capacity 360° parallel twin in the world and made by a tiny crew as their passion. Looks like a proper bike !
This reminds me of a Hinckley Triumph .
 
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I reckon the best non Norton and it is the best bike I`ve ever ridden is the Aprilia Tuono 1000 V twin . Buy one new and it has everything ................... , braided hoses , hugger etc , unlike some ...........Triumph . I bought a gen 1 factory first (2007 ) but all the tech is wasted on me . I bought a gen 2 and then sold the factory , i still have it and a second one .
 

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The screaming Eagle 131 is a big bore kit. From what I see and read, the cylinders are thin. I know tons of people use the 131 SE kit and Harley warranties it. But with the S&S 128 the cylinders are thicker. S&S uses a stroker crank that’s modified and improved over stock to get the 131.

Both 128 and 131 are capable of 150hp / 150tq. That’s more than enough.
Even a simple cam swap provides 45-48 rear wheel hp and up to 32 lb/tq.
I’ve seen where they did a cam dyno test on the same bike, same dyno, same exhaust on a stock 114.
between 5 different cams from different manufacturers, the numbers were so close you can’t go wrong.
a stock 114 at the tire dynoed at 79hp at 109tq.
with a cam and slip ons mufflers it made 124hp / 129tq. Some cams made 1-3 more tq
 

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That’s good info Scott, thanks.

Funnily enough, I got to that same question about mine, how much would a cam and head work get if set up properly without going for the bigger bore. Think I might look deeper into that question now.
 
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I reckon the best non Norton and it is the best bike I`ve ever ridden is the Aprilia Tuono 1000 V twin . Buy one new and it has everything ................... , braided hoses , hugger etc , unlike some ...........Triumph . I bought a gen 1 factory first (2007 ) but all the tech is wasted on me . I bought a gen 2 and then sold the factory , i still have it and a second one .
 

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That’s good info Scott, thanks.

Funnily enough, I got to that same question about mine, how much would a cam and head work get if set up properly without going for the bigger bore. Think I might look deeper into that question now.
On the M8 a cam only swap makes huge gains. And honestly for myself that’s probably all I should really do. Part of me wants to go deep and do a big bore kit (S&S 128) with ported heads, cam, etc.
But the other part of me says just do a cam, and exhaust and be happy. It’s a cruiser Harley, not a sport bike. 45 Hp and 30+ additional tq is nothing to sneeze at for little money and a couple hours of work. Decision- decisions. Lol
 

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Obviously you should just do the cam and a bit of head work etc.

Obviously you will build a 128” tarmac shreader!!
 

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Obviously you should just do the cam and a bit of head work etc.

Obviously you will build a 128” tarmac shreader!!
Lol. If I pull the heads off, I may as well do the bore kit.
With a cam swap I don’t need to pull the heads off.
If I do a bore kit, I’m going in deep.
 
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Yeah… for about the next 5 minutes
Going by the adage, a change is as good as a rest and spurred on by the middle grandkid, the 7 is back on the road and what a blast! All youngans carefully taken for a spin, literally, after a shakedown, all is well. Ok it has 4 wheels but not much else, most fun dressed for years!
 
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