Triumph Thruxton Fairing fitted to Norton 961 - I want one (a lot)!

I've got fairly long legs but they fit within the dents on the Thrux. I think this is because of the rear sets which pull the knees down and back.
This setup should be the same as I'm setting up all the ergos on this 920 same as the Thrux, not the Norton position.
I read a review of the 961 where the rider complained about the position of those tank indents.
That was the claim by one reviewer who was about my size, 6'1" or so.


I checked the position of the indents on the alloy tank.
The beginning of the indent turn on the alloy tank is 25.25 " away from the centre of the seat seam at the seat back, identical to the Thruxton.
Sitting on a hard wooden chair, the knobby bone on the inside of my knee starts at 24" from the chair back and curves out from there to about 27" at the furthest point
So , sitting all the way back, the knee lays right in that curve, which is ideal. I do have to sit all the way back on the Thruxton , but that's comfortable.
Your results may vary.
Reread the 961 review, he likes the bike but complains that his knee is under the tank? Perhaps his knee is in an unusual location on the body.

Glen
 
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worntorn said:
I've got fairly long legs but they fit within the dents on the Thrux. I think this is because of the rear sets which pull the knees down and back.
This setup should be the same as I'm setting up all the ergos on this 920 same as the Thrux, not the Norton position.
I read a review of the 961 where the rider complained about the position of those tank indents.
That was the claim by one reviewer who was about my size, 6'1" or so.


I checked the position of the indents on the alloy tank.
The beginning of the indent turn on the alloy tank is 25.25 " away from the centre of the seat seam at the seat back, identical to the Thruxton.
Sitting on a hard wooden chair, the knobby bone on the inside of my knee starts at 24" from the chair back and curves out from there to about 27" at the furthest point
So , sitting all the way back, the knee lays right in that curve, which is ideal. I do have to sit all the way back on the Thruxton , but that's comfortable.
Your results may vary.
Reread the 961 review, he likes the bike but complains that his knee is under the tank? Perhaps his knee is in an unusual location on the body.

Glen
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961 ergonomics are a tad strange Glen. The tank indents are too far back for many. But they are also way too indented, so if your knees do fit in them, that portion of the tank is unnecessarily narrow, especially when combined with footrests that are inexplicably wide.
 
worntorn said:
So , sitting all the way back, the knee lays right in that curve, which is ideal. I do have to sit all the way back on the Thruxton , but that's comfortable.
Your results may vary.


Glen
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I'm 6'2", ectomorph - short torso, long legs, and have the same issue.
I have to sit way back on the 961 and my knees are still about 1 inch past the front of the rear indent. Very annoying on a ride of any distance.
I agree that the 961 tank indented section is too narrow as well.
They could have made the indented section a little wider, and continued the indents further forward by an inch or two, and still perverse the fuel capacity.
 
BritTwit said:
I'm 6'2", ectomorph - short torso, long legs, and have the same issue.
I have to sit way back on the 961 and my knees are still about 1 inch past the front of the rear indent. Very annoying on a ride of any distance.
I agree that the 961 tank indented section is too narrow as well.
They could have made the indented section a little wider, and continued the indents further forward by an inch or two, and still perverse the fuel capacity.
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Hey BritTwit - you ride the CR right? I must be a freak! I'm 6 ft (after a hair cut) and my knees go nowhere near the tank! The (quite radical) reach to the bars of my CR and the high quite wide pegs put my knees flapping out there in the wind! Driving them in to the tank feels totally unnatural and holding them there would be uncomfortable. No problem, I'm not riding a motocross or a Moto GP machine, no need to be gripping the tank. The opposite of course as for me the CR is a green lane scratcher, so I'm generally moving around the bike pretending that I'm a classic bike racer! Don't do highways on the CR, not unless I've been a bad boy and want to punish myself!!
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Hey BritTwit - you ride the CR right? I must be a freak! I'm 6 ft (after a hair cut) and my knees go nowhere near the tank! The (quite radical) reach to the bars of my CR and the high quite wide pegs put my knees flapping out there in the wind! Driving them in to the tank feels totally unnatural and holding them there would be uncomfortable. No problem, I'm not riding a motocross or a Moto GP machine, no need to be gripping the tank. The opposite of course as for me the CR is a green lane scratcher, so I'm generally moving around the bike pretending that I'm a classic bike racer! Don't do highways on the CR, not unless I've been a bad boy and want to punish myself!!
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My arms are also long 36" sleeve, so for me the reach to the clip-ons is not too bad. I could (would) tuck my knees to the tank, feels natural not a problem except my knee bone hits in front of the indent. Yes the pegs are also poorly positioned on the 961 too wide outboard, and for folks with long legs, poorly positioned in relation to seat height.
The general 961 ergos may work for a subset of 961 owners, but for me it's just the price I pay in order to own a 961.
Living in NYC, I don't get many opportunities to do back road scratching.
That requires a lengthy ride on highways to the burbs, or north country, by then the 961 has worked its magic on my back, shoulders, etc.
However, The 961 ergos are not the worst that I've experienced, that award goes to my 1988 GSXR1100.
A true rolling medieval rack, and I was whole lot younger then, enough said.
 
"Living in NYC, I don't get many opportunities to do back road scratching."

I'm 30 minutes from you. Either I will ride to you and to 7 lakes drive our you ride to me and we will hit Wading River.
 
When building the Vincent Special I tack welded the foot pegs and temporarily positioned seat to clip ons at the same dimensions as a new GSXR 1000 I had measured up.
It didn't look right so I went down to the local Triumph dealer who had a used Yamaha R6, CBR1000rr and a Suzuki GSXR 1000. They allowed me to test sit on them all.
It became immediately apparent that these bikes are designed for small, flexible young riders. I couldn't see travelling more than a few miles in that contorted state.
They happened to have a Triumph Daytona 955i there, so I tried that expecting much of the same. To my surprise, it was reasonably comfortable, so I measured it up.
I went home and broke the tack welds then repositioned things as per 955i.
With adjustable riser Heli-bars added, the Special is decent for comfort. Later on I bought a 955i Daytona as I wanted to sample litre Sport bike power without having to endure the scrunched up riding position on the Japanese rockets.

Glen
 
worntorn said:
When building the Vincent Special I tack welded the foot pegs and temporarily positioned seat to clip ons at the same dimensions as a new GSXR 1000 I had measured up.
It didn't look right so I went down to the local Triumph dealer who had a used Yamaha R6, CBR1000rr and a Suzuki GSXR 1000. They allowed me to test sit on them all.
It became immediately apparent that these bikes are designed for small, flexible young riders. I couldn't see travelling more than a few miles in that contorted state.
They happened to have a Triumph Daytona 955i there, so I tried that expecting much of the same. To my surprise, it was reasonably comfortable, so I measured it up.
I went home and broke the tack welds then repositioned things as per 955i.
With adjustable riser Heli-bars added, the Special is decent for comfort. Later on I bought a 955i Daytona as I wanted to sample litre Sport bike power without having to endure the scrunched up riding position on the Japanese rockets.

Glen
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Taking measurement is a great idea.
Did you at least tell the dealer you were thinking about buying a new bike?:cool:

Seriously. the new GSXR1000 has the now standard perimeter frame, and at least some at bit of reasonable ergos, for a sportbike that is.
The old 1988 GSXR1100 had the old backbone frame with the seat rails a few inches below the tank rails.
So basically, the stretch to steep angled clip-ons had the rider sitting on his "attachments".
And with the rear of the tank stuck up tight against the riders belly, the first good bump in the road would give the rider a punch in good ole labonza.
 
Britfan60 said:
"Living in NYC, I don't get many opportunities to do back road scratching."

I'm 30 minutes from you. Either I will ride to you and to 7 lakes drive our you ride to me and we will hit Wading River.
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Curtis,

Was just explaining I can't roll out of bed and immediately onto a beautiful back road.
Though I envy those who can.
I must first escape from New York City.
Like the movie.
 
Not a Norton or a Triumph but seeing this caused me to rush out and hammer some tank dents in the forward edge of the Norton/Triumph tank. This allowed the fork crown to swing further which increased turning from about 50 degrees total sweep to around 70 degrees.
Imagine trying to get out of New York on this thing!
Cool bike but I don't think it would be comfortable on a long ride. Long being anything much over a mile!
Doesn't help that the rider is short and the tank is loooong.
Glen
 
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BritTwit said:
My arms are also long 36" sleeve, so for me the reach to the clip-ons is not too bad. I could (would) tuck my knees to the tank, feels natural not a problem except my knee bone hits in front of the indent. Yes the pegs are also poorly positioned on the 961 too wide outboard, and for folks with long legs, poorly positioned in relation to seat height.
The general 961 ergos may work for a subset of 961 owners, but for me it's just the price I pay in order to own a 961.
Living in NYC, I don't get many opportunities to do back road scratching.
That requires a lengthy ride on highways to the burbs, or north country, by then the 961 has worked its magic on my back, shoulders, etc.
However, The 961 ergos are not the worst that I've experienced, that award goes to my 1988 GSXR1100.
A true rolling medieval rack, and I was whole lot younger then, enough said.
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Yep, I guess the ergos are gonna suit some and not others. For me, like yourself, the CR is a bit of an instrument of torture in some situations. Traffic and highways are out - simply don’t do them. Luckily I live in a sleepy(ish) part of Queensland (Sunshine Coast) and am literally 10 minutes from some awesome roads - you could ride around for days without crossing the same piece of tarmac.

As soon as I start to press the pace a little and move around the bike, all (well most) of that discomfort disappears. Vibrations gone, hand tingling disappears, pressure relieved from the lower back! Magic! Good for 150-200Km, with a coffee break or two of course! Thats all I want out of this awesome machine. When I can’t do that any more I will do the ’decliponectomy’!

I remember the early GSR1100’s, had one for several years. Don’t remember it being super uncomfortable but I was much (much) younger as you can see!! Yes, I know, what a cheesy, staged, posey photo - I have no excuse, other than the flush of youth;)!

Triumph Thruxton Fairing fitted to Norton 961 - I want one (a lot)!
 
worntorn said:
Not a Norton or a Triumph but seeing this caused me to rush out and hammer some tank dents in the forward edge of the Norton/Triumph tank. This allowed the fork crown to swing further which increased turning from about 50 degrees total sweep to around 70 degrees.
Imagine trying to get out of New York on this thing!
Cool bike but I don't think it would be comfortable on a long ride. Long being anything much over a mile!
Doesn't help that the rider is short and the tank is loooong.
Glen
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Torture for sure, that I could not endure.
I suppose some are willing to suffer quite a bit for their art.
 
Fast Eddie said:
You realise you just posted that on a public forum right ??
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Did’nt think that through did I!! :rolleyes: Not supposed to be looking at my cheesy pose, but at that rocket ship I’m sat on! Might have been uncomfortable but geez was it quick - used to try and rip your arms off!! Problem was I was on the island of Cyprus, which is pretty small. By time I got into top gear I was slowing for the other end of the island!
 
I had a couple of the 750s and some mates had the 1100s. I always thought the 1100 was just too much, and the 750 was actually faster in 99% of all circumstances. I remember a mate bringing his prized new 1100 along to a track day with us and going home very embarrassed / depressed.

At the time, compared to the 750 which was physically small and quite cramped, I thought the 1100 was comparatively comfortable, if a bit of a barge. It seemed like an old mans bike to me !

Then again, a mate with an RG500 thought the same of the 750 !

Them were ‘t days...
 
BritTwit said:
Curtis,

Was just explaining I can't roll out of bed and immediately onto a beautiful back road.
Though I envy those who can.
I must first escape from New York City.
Like the movie.
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Aww c'mon. You live 1/2 mile from the GCP. Its got curves.:cool:
 
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