TRITON, at last...

Carbonfibre said:
Might be worth picturing removal of the sludge trap tube, as many people overlook this, and end up with ruined motors?
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Did you not see the pics where he welded up the nut to get it out?
 
swooshdave said:
Carbonfibre said:
Might be worth picturing removal of the sludge trap tube, as many people overlook this, and end up with ruined motors?
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Did you not see the pics where he welded up the nut to get it out?
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He was using the welded nut to remove the gallery plug-not the tube.
 
The tubes generally need to be removed with a tap, and anyone who can remove one without destroying it must have another method of getting them out. Used to have lots of people coming to the bike shop where I worked many years ago, needing motor rebuilds after they had had cranks ground, and not bothered to change the sludge trap tube. Seems strange GP hasnt pictured how to remove the tube, as failing to do so is a very common (and expensive!) mistake.
 
In this case, i moved to quickly and didn't get a shot.

On my dedicated classc Triumph twins & triples forum (http;//forums.delphiforums.com/grandpaul), and in the Classics, Vintage & Veteran section I moderate on www.TriumphRat.Net (in the member's projects subsection), you'll find at least a dozen of my previous Triumph big twin projects that all got snapped in time. I'm kind of breezing through the "easy" stuff on this build because (1) It's not Norton, and (2) it's mine, not client's, so no due dilligence evidence needed.
 
Carbonfibre said:
The tubes generally need to be removed with a tap, and anyone who can remove one without destroying it must have another method of getting them out. Used to have lots of people coming to the bike shop where I worked many years ago, needing motor rebuilds after they had had cranks ground, and not bothered to change the sludge trap tube. Seems strange GP hasnt pictured how to remove the tube, as failing to do so is a very common (and expensive!) mistake.
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Of course it would be nice to see one of your bikes. Any will do. :mrgreen:
 
I gave up messing around with old Brit bikes many years ago.............but did own and work on them for around 10 years way back when in the days when I was a bike mechanic. But whether or not I still own a Brit now, makes no difference to the fact that a crank rebuilt without removing and replacing the sludge tube, will mean a blown up motor soon after it has been put back together.
 
Carbonfibre said:
...the fact that a crank rebuilt without removing and replacing the sludge tube, will mean a blown up motor soon after it has been put back together.
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Yep, just like one that has had a brand new sludge tube inserted too shallow by 1/4" . Don't ask how I found that out.
 
Maybe a good idea to post pics of how to go about changing the sludge tube, as lots of people fail to do this, and can lead to big problems?
 
Here are a few of my recent project threads that include sludge trap removal & replacement-

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1520.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1495.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1384.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/custombi ... ?msg=170.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1149.1 (the "don't ask" bike)

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1044.1 (old photo hosting source, so screwy pix)

If you don't get the idea after reviewing these, you need to hire somebody that gets it. You'll also start to realize that no two are alike in how they come out (or refuse to come out). There are several ways to do the job, with or without special tools.
 
Although this project has been languishing in a corner of the shop (for the most part), I have come across an occasional deal on some trick bits, and have managed to squeeze in an hour here and there fiddling with some of the bits that should eventually end up on the bike.

July 2011- engine covers polished-

TRITON, at last...


Possible alternate - finned alloy primary cover-

TRITON, at last...


April 2012- Checking what all I had in the way of belt drive primary setups, I found out the ultra-trick M.A.P. setup needs a special clutch hub, due to the thickness of it's sealed bearing being about 1" wider than the 20 roller setup; so, that one's out, and the almost as nice M.A.P. "street" belt kit will be employed instead.

TRITON, at last...

TRITON, at last...
 
Also from March/April - I won a Suzuki 4LS front brake on e-bay for $460; they are the ticket for budget Triton builders (you know, us guys that can't afford the $2,500 Grimeca units)

TRITON, at last...


Also found a brand new dual pull brake lever for the 4LS brake, for a very reasonable price (under $50). Classic Magura levers go for over $100-

TRITON, at last...


May 2012 - The first brake is back on e-bay, because I got an entire GT550 in payment for a client project's labor; so, I'm using the forks, yokes and front brake/hub. Here are the bits that will get polished -

TRITON, at last...


All it took was turning down the upper bearing race shoulder on the yoke stem to allow the upper race to drop down to the level of the featherbed steering stem tube spacing, and chop off the Suzuki steering stops off the lower yoke.

Not much progress, but that's just the way it goes...
 
Couple of problems with the finned cover: very limited cooling, no timing window, and it is too shallow for use even with the OEM primary & alternator. Apparently, I got ripped off by an improperly designed cover that requires a special spacer plate.

There is a possibility that I'll use it by bolting it on with extended screws and a home-made set of spacer ferrules, one for each screw. That'll leave it standing proud of the case by 1/4" os so, which will allow nominal protection and plenty of cooling.
 
Updated prototype rendering- Looking more like it ought to look with the big ol' Ducati Monster headlight and peashooter downswept pipes. Still, it's about a year out...

TRITON, at last...
 
I just picked up 3 bikes worth of parts from powdercoat, and a small batch of stuff from the chrome shop.

Doesn't mean I can progress at all, at least not 'till the hardware comes back from Cad plating, and the fork lowers and top yoke get back from the polishers.

Still, it's something...

4LS Front brake bits-
TRITON, at last...


Swingarm, brake parts & oil filter housing-

TRITON, at last...


I did press in the new oversize sintered bronze bushings for use with my modified spindle kit. This time, I assured myself of a better alignment by setting everything in place with the spindle installed, and pressed the entire sandwich together, leaving a gap between two support blocks for the spindle to push down through. Near perfect results.
 
Just putting stuff away and I realized ther WAS something I could assemble - the rear brake!

TRITON, at last...


Nice new brake shoes, everything lubed properly...

TRITON, at last...
 
(from a couple of weeks ago)

I'm starting to believe that there's no way I'll ever top 55 pounds of hardware in a USPS medium flat rate box (three years ago, 3 Norton projects + misc. shop bits). I sent off the Triton stuff to be cadmium plated, along with a client's Magna project stuff, assorted bits from my future '65 & '68 Bonnies, and all the other rusty/dirty hardware I could find in (almost) every corner of the shop and it didn't quite tip 39 pounds. The postal clerk looked at me with a frown...

TRITON, at last...
 

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