Removing Exhaust Crossover Pipes

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Just thought I'd pass on this picture of what I had to do to remove the crossover pipe and connectors from my 850 balanced exhaust system, so I could try to reuse them.

Just to remove the pipes from the bike originally, I had to cut the crossover tube in the middle. Then, to remove them from the exhaust pipes, I had to weld a chunk of angle iron on to the cut ends of the pipe, clamp that in a vise, and heat the connector until I could finally twist the exhaust down tube off the connector. I was careful not to overheat it and ruin the chrome plating. I then tried using heat to remove the connector, but had no luck. Finally, to remove the remaining bit of the crossover pipe from the coupling, I cut the angle iron bits off, and chucked it in the lathe, so I could carefully bore out the pipe until it was thin enough that I could remove the connector. I was worried about catching the pipe on the boring tool and twisting it all into an unusable mess, but by taking very small cuts, it worked fine.

Removing Exhaust Crossover Pipes


I'm now in the process of trying to sand out the inside of the connectors enough that I can slide them over the new balance pipe (cut out of an old down tube). My fallback option if this doesn't work is to weld caps on the crossover openings on the down pipes just for the rally, and sort it out when I get back.

The only reason I'm going to all this trouble is that the connectors and balance pipe don't seem to be available from vendors, including Andover and Old Brits. I tried standard 750 roadster pipes, but had clearance issues with the sidestand bolt and the Mk III primary cover. Given more time, I could have done something about the sidestand bolt and primary case, but I'm on a pretty short schedule trying to get the bike ready for the rally. The other option that looked good was ordering a set of the unbalanced pipes from Commado Specialties that have the same clearance as the balanced pipes, but they wouldn't get here in time, so I'm back to making the stock pipes work.

The reason I'm posting this is to see what other options forum members might have come up with in similar circumstances. I'd really prefer to get rid of the balanced pipe. All the ones I've used in the past have either cracked or also been impossible to remove without damage.

Ken
 
Ken, have you tried feked-com? They are UK based and have very good feedback on fitment and quality. There are lots of complaints about poor quality and poor fitting exhausts even from some high end vendors, however I only found positive reviews of the Feked items.
I was just looking through their 50 + pages of vintage motorcycle exhausts to locate some Siamese pipes for my new to me BSA Super Rocket. I am sure I saw a complete balanced header set for the Commando at £149.99

They may have a quick delivery option.


Glen
 
Anyone who has had to deal with this type of mess knows why the old Dunstall pipes with the crossover were connected with a flexible Inconel tube.
 
In the end it appears to all have worked out. I did manage to clean up the connectors enough to get them over the new tube, and it's all looking pretty good on the bike. If it doesn't leak, I probably won't change it till next time I have to remove the pipes for something. I'll find out how well it works in the next couple of days.

Thanks for the link, worntorn. I took a look at feked.com, and they really do have an amazing selection of vintage exhausts. As you said, they offer a complete balanced 850 pipe set. I still don't like the balance pipe design, so if I ever change, it will probably be to the Commando Specialties pipes.

Ken
 
concours said:
Ditch them, along with the lame split keepers.

Can't. Got to have something on the bike for the rally. I load up Tuesday and hit the road on Wednesday. It's a long ways from Socal to North Carolina!

I managed to get the balanced pipes back on and working, so that's it until after the rally.

I've been fantasizing for years about bending up some titanium pipes. Maybe it's finally time.

Ken
 
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