NORTON FACTORY SUNDAY 15TH JANUARY 2023( NOC INVITE)

You summed it up well Jan ( he was taking notes) more on the ball than me obviously, here are some pics of the day , astonishing amount of equipment/machinery there , they are here to stay
NORTON FACTORY SUNDAY 15TH JANUARY 2023( NOC INVITE)
NORTON FACTORY SUNDAY 15TH JANUARY 2023( NOC INVITE)
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NORTON FACTORY SUNDAY 15TH JANUARY 2023( NOC INVITE)
 
5. They are legally investigating whether the sale of 961 engine rights to Chinese can be nullified, since the sale was made at a point when the company was allegedly insolvent, which is not permitted.

Great report from the factory.
I think item #5 is a fantastic idea.
If Norton can wrest back the rights to the 961 motor, then it becomes easier to make refinements without the threat of suffering legal liabilities to Jinlang. That is of course IF the factory wants to continue refining/improving the motor, and not scrape it for a new design.
 
Exactly my thoughts. Not many of that crew would be on a v4 bike. I wouldn’t imagine anyhow.
Oh, I don't know 'bout that.
I'm in that fraternity, and I would be on one if I could afford, and get spare parts for one.
 
Nice report guys! Looking a little better than the Garner era 'factory'. It all looks very positive and understand their guarded public statements. Really nice to see!
 
Predominately a NOC open day with add on’s? The age group to be expected then, as is ours. Older men with a deeper appreciation of the marque and it’s history, with the means to purchase.
I’d be (very) surprised though, if the 3-4 new bikes in development are not aimed at broadening the demographic, model type and reach of the customers pocket. Will one be electric at this stage?

961 Commando aimed at the heritage buyer, V4 aimed at the prestige sports biker. Where will the others aim; whichever direction Birmingham Norton need to get it right. These models will be the first none legacy machines and as such arguably the most important they will produce, bearing in mind that they are still essentially a start-up.

Seems to me that they are set up for the long game and despite a slow start, it looks pretty bloody promising! Seems like communication is getting better also - certainly more realistic. Don’t promise stuff unless you are sure that you can deliver. A good rule of thumb when your customer base is so invested.

I’m feelin positive, but then you’d expect me to be;)!
 
I’d be (very) surprised though, if the 3-4 new bikes in development are not aimed at broadening the demographic, model type and reach of the customers pocket. Will one be electric at this stage?
Most likely at least one will be an EV.
I hope Norton will provide al least some info on the models under development in the near term.
Type, capacity, and such, just general info.
 
The noise is to an acceptable level, in my opinon.
When I got home I made use of the mild weather and road tested a customers 961 California....that was quieter. I'll go as far to say that particular bike was eye brow raising quiet. But that was half the problem at Donington, consistency. If Brummy Norton have all 961's now sounding the same, then its fine....its a feature not a fault. Prior to around 2016 yes most 961's did sound like a Massey Fergusan. Gear selection could also be sporadic on quality, even more so prior to the revised shifter linkage rod. But with a correctly set up shift mechanism on a later bike, I find the gear selection to be excellent.
Has a current euro 4 961 owner road tested one yet?
Mr Hogan did a bit of a talk at the start of the day, but to be honest I couldn't hear much due to my tinnitus going bat shit crazy in that area...from what I gather he did expand slightly on some things he touched on here. There's actually an interesting interview with Christian Gladwell in this months dealer news....I'll copy it into here later.
I did spot the starter motors fitted in engine build no longer have a gasket, so can only assume they've had a recess machined into them to allow an O ring to be fitted (I use a HD starter gasket which is a rubber coated steel gasket, with an internal seal)..and a neater solution to bunging up the breather drilling with a ball bearing instead of a smudge of rtv....I'm stealing that idea, liked it. Noted a few other revised parts from the engine I looked at on the build stand.
The new facility is very impressive, something to be proud of and I'm sure they'll do well....they're certainly on the cusp of greatness, and I wish them the best.
 
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I think item #5 is a fantastic idea.
If Norton can wrest back the rights to the 961 motor, then it becomes easier to make refinements without the threat of suffering legal liabilities to Jinlang.
That is going to depend on what is in the contract, invariably there is a clause detailing which countries law are to used in the case of a dispute. This will have to be England & Wales for this to stick, if its Chinese then does Chinese law have the same rule on contracts and insolvent companies.
 
Well as we all know, that was temporary whilst waiting for the new factory.
This is a Google Earth screen shot of the new building. The part I've highlighted in red is where fabrication had moved to. The large section to the left is where Production was to move. From memory there was a rain fall drainage issue that they were working on in the middle bit, which delayed things...that and no doubt money. I think long term ideas were to eventually make that one large building. It would have taken a VERY long time to get up to the level that Norton now have tbh.
The area I've highlighted in yellow was Production, on the ground floor. That was to become the Norton heritage and visitor centre. The bit I've done blue was mentioned as being turned into a cafe.
 

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I think SG wanted to turn the whole area into a motoring venue, with the cafe etc, and bringing the Donington Motor Club name back as well, where Donington Hall was to be opened up to people/members. I went to the first one, the food was excellent as it was kitchen staff from the Priest House Hotel....it would have been a great place to escape to for some peace and quiet from the bread knife on a Sunday morning. But as we all know, none of this was to be as all those spinning plates eventually come crashing down January 2020.
No doubt Brummy Norton will be more focused on the production of motorcycles, which can only be a good thing for the brand.
 

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Looks a tad more professional than the Donington set up! :eek:View attachment 102923View attachment 102924
Remember it well. Had a ’factory’ tour in 2016. Tank fabrication and welding in a damp tent with engine building and final assembly in a carpeted ‘open office’ space in Hastings House. Not a patch on quality from Dr Bobs current ’ Shirley Temple’ facilities but added flavour in the Donington bikes.
 
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