LED Headlight with built in turn signals

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chaztuna said:
Glen, I was thinking bar end T/S lamps, as well. However, it the photo, you can see that he has bar end mirrors. With clip on bars, not many other options for mirror location. Clip ons also make hand signals problematic. Perhaps a pair of small LED signal lamps could be mounted to the mirror stalks? I'm thinking using Adel clamps or perhaps some custom fabricated clamps?? They would be far enough apart. As you mentioned, properly placed, they could be seen front and rear, so would negate the need for rear turn signal lamps.

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The silver bike in my photo has clip ons and bar end mirrors.
I'll take a close up to show how that fits together.


Glen
 
Genuine Oberon bar end signals and extensions, knock off mirrors ready to be knocked off.
The mirrors give a good view and work well.

 
I use surface mounted, aerodynamic, pyramid shaped directional lights on my fairing for front directional signal lights. They show up good against the black fairing. I bet they show up less in the daylight on a yellow colored fairing. I'm satisfied with them. They are extremely bright and take a special bulb for which I bought a dozen back up bulbs as potential replacements. My only complaint was that I couldn't see them blinking from the saddle, so I could possibly leave them on accidentally, but now I use a "mostop flasher unit" to prevent that. In the back I have the same extremely bright bulbs in very short stalked black fixtures. They are so bright, they are annoying to the eye, so no one could miss either of them...


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For today's traffic I'm thinking left and right angled missile launchers to clear a path before executing a turn.
 
worntorn said:
Dave, have you tried the headlight at night? It looks very bright but the pattern or focus seems to be the big problem with LEDs.
They are getting better. The BPF base LED sold by The Bonneville Shop is quite good.


Glen
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I honestly have no intention of ever finding out how it does at night.

It’s challenging enough trying spot and judge where other drivers are while on that bike. I would never try to do it at night.

Report is that it’s sufficiently bright during the day which was my only criteria.

Thd bad news is my flasher doesn’t work while the bike is running. I need to test out a different flasher unit. Luckily today we were riding in a pack so I didn’t need them.

And last note, if you want ineffective safety devices go look at the brake light on a Vincent.
 
worntorn said:
Genuine Oberon bar end signals and extensions, knock off mirrors ready to be knocked off.
The mirrors give a good view and work well.

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Oberon stuff is top notch. I have their 75mm Streetfighter barend mirrors on my mk2 and they are probably the best mirrors i have had on any motorcycle, ever. Rock solid and clear.

I have a few of their parts on my Duc too. All excellent.
 
I like those Oberons! I assume that the indicator portion adds a couple of inches to the overall width of the handlebars and the mirrors clamp onto a section of the installed indicator, right? Is the added width not too obtrusive?
 
swooshdave said:
I honestly have no intention of ever finding out how it does at night.

It’s challenging enough trying spot and judge where other drivers are while on that bike. I would never try to do it at night.

Report is that it’s sufficiently bright during the day which was my only criteria.

Thd bad news is my flasher doesn’t work while the bike is running. I need to test out a different flasher unit. Luckily today we were riding in a pack so I didn’t need them.

And last note, if you want ineffective safety devices go look at the brake light on a Vincent.
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Even though some LED headlights do have debatable beam patterns for night time riding, I think all of them are far better than halogen when it comes to day time riding lights. The brighter blue / white light is much more visible to other road users in daylight. You‘ve only got to look at some bicycle lights for proof of this, they are staggeringly bright and from such tiny devices.

Same applies to rear lights BTW, LED bulbs, or even better, LED light boards make a tremendous difference to the visibility of a motorcycle day or night. Even on a Vincent Swoosh !
 
There are LED circuit boards made to fit those Vincent STOP lights. They help a lot, as long as the bike has been converted to 12 volts.
 
BUT...I notice when out riding when my wife is behind me, that her '19 Honda's headlight is only really visible in my mirrors when it's essentially pointed straight at me. IOW, it seems LESS noticeable than an incandescent headlight if it's not aiming directly at the viewer...
 
MexicoMike said:
I like those Oberons! I assume that the indicator portion adds a couple of inches to the overall width of the handlebars and the mirrors clamp onto a section of the installed indicator, right? Is the added width not too obtrusive?
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I thought about getting these for the Duc, but lockdown happened...


Mirror and Indicator Combination

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Streetfighter Mirror by Oberon Performance

Oberon Performance's universal streetfighter mirror for hollow handlebars black or silver 2 bezel sizes
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MexicoMike said:
BUT...I notice when out riding when my wife is behind me, that her '19 Honda's headlight is only really visible in my mirrors when it's essentially pointed straight at me. IOW, it seems LESS noticeable than an incandescent headlight if it's not aiming directly at the viewer...
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That’s interesting, certainly not the case with the LED bulbs retro fitted into stock headlights that I’ve done.
 
Fast Eddie said:
That’s interesting, certainly not the case with the LED bulbs retro fitted into stock headlights that I’ve done.
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Yep I agree on this
Retro fitted LEDs don't always concentrate the light where you want for night time riding but for daytime the ones that I have fitted put out loads of light
And make you far more noticeable
 
I compared the new improved focus BPF LED to a 60/55 halogen H4. The 60/55 H4 halogen is a powerful well focused light, the best I've had to date. Unfortunately I can't run these on all of the old bikes as some just don't have enough juice for it.
The 12 watt LED will run on any of them and can stay on even in slow traffic, which means it can be on in daytime as well.
As Nigel found, it is very bright for daytime use and safety. With the two lights viewed from 200feet away its obvious that the LED is the brighter of the two. Angle of view doesn't seem to matter.
For nighttime riding the H4 is far better than the LED.
The LED is good enough to get you home, but I wouldn't want to ride very far or very fast using it.
I never plan to ride at night, but sometimes it happens.
Like the time a friend visiting from England crashed a borrowed Vincent and broke his back. We were a couple of hundred miles from home and on backroads at the time.
By the time we got an ambulance to him and then saw him briefly in hospital, it was dark and we were on three old bikes, only one with reasonably decent headlight. That was my Commando so the other two tucked in very close and rode using my headlight beam for vision.
Both had 6 volt " original" Vincents and the headlights were quite useless. To make matters worse one of the Miller Dynamos lost its winding and that bike was used dead loss.
By the time we got home a lit match would have made more light than his headlight was producing.
It's best to avoid riding at night, but the bike should have a headlight that
will show the way when unforseen things occur.
We've also ended up out there at night after someone has a flat tire or other mechanical issue that takes time to repair roadside.

Glen
 
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worntorn said:
I compared the new improved focus BPF LED to a 60/55 halogen H4. The 60/55 H4 halogen is a powerful well focused light, the best I've had to date. Unfortunately I can't run these on all of the old bikes as some just don't have enough juice for it.
The 12 watt LED will run on any of them and can stay on even in slow traffic, which means it can be on in daytime as well.
As Nigel found, it is very bright for daytime use and safety. With the two lights viewed from 200feet away its obvious that the LED is the brighter of the two. Angle of view doesn't seem to matter.
For nighttime riding the H4 is far better than the LED.
The LED is good enough to get you home, but I wouldn't want to ride very far or very fast using it.
I never plan to ride at night, but sometimes it happens.
Like the time a friend visiting from England crashed a borrowed Vincent and broke his back. We were a couple of hundred miles from home and on backroads at the time.
By the time we got an ambulance to him and then saw him briefly in hospital, it was dark and we were on three old bikes, only one with reasonably decent headlight. That was my Commando so the other two tucked in very close and rode using my headlight beam for vision.
Both had 6 volt " original" Vincents and the headlights were quite useless. To make matters worse one of the Miller Dynamos lost its winding and that bike was used dead loss.
By the time we got home a lit match would have made more light than his headlight was producing.
It's best to avoid riding at night, but the bike should have a headlight that
will show the way when unforseen things occur.
We've also ended up out there at night after someone has a flat tire or other mechanical issue that takes time to repair roadside.

Glen
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I have five of these, on my moderns as well.
Makes all the other LED’s pretty much like “ornamentation”
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