Kill Switch

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Surely the name on the switch should remove any lingering doubt and uncertainty?

(retires to safe distance with fingers in ears)
 
B+Bogus said:
Surely the name on the switch should remove any lingering doubt and uncertainty?

(retires to safe distance with fingers in ears)
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I guess so (retiring to even safer distance with fingers in ears and kevlar body armour) :-)
 
swooshdave said:
rvich said:
I see we are driving GP nuts. Oh well, might as well hash it out.

Check your switch cluster again. I might be wrong on this, but I think the turn indicators get power via green-brown and not the white.
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Good catch, I think you may be right on this. That would make more sense.

rvich said:
On mine it appears that the white wire provides power for this circuit at the flasher unit, then it goes via green-brown to the switch cluster and from there it is selected to go green-red or green-white. If this is the case on your bike that these switches are independent then your white wire is isolated to being used with either the white-yellow (normally closed) or white-red (normally open)

GP my apologies if this seems like whiping a dead horse. But I see the job of eliminating potential electrical failures as critical to enjoying the bike. I think Dave and I both agree that a kill switch is a good thing to have.

Russ
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Russ is the first person in all these pages that actually made sense and knew what the wires in the handlebar switch did. Now it all comes together. That being said (and one last chance to give GP an aneurism) I still think that relying on a semi-exposed contact in the handlebar switch (the kill button) is more risky than a fully enclosed relay, especially one that defaults closed like the SPDT ones. I have already made up the correct wire to go from the white/yellow (from the kill switch) to the positive side of the coil and also to power the Boyer. I'll try this for now, although I also know how to wire it up alternatively for the relay.

And now the good news...

Kill Switch

Both sides installed.

Kill Switch

Clutch

Kill Switch

Brake

Kill Switch

The connections. I'll tidy them up and protect everything, especially after I've had a chance to test all the circuits.

Kill Switch

Someone mentioned protecting unused wires. Here's how I do it. I crimp on a female bullet connector (which really covers the end well) and then for extra protection put a short section of heat shrink on it. While it's still warm I pinch it closed. I think that should do it...
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Oh just noticed you do not have a Red button for the Kill button. (Minor detail I guess). :roll:
 
plj850 said:
Oh just noticed you do not have a Red button for the Kill button. (Minor detail I guess). :roll:
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I've never seen one with a red button. If someone has one laying around I'll change it out.
 
I think I have a Red button tucked away somewhere. Not sure if they were a Triumph only thing...
 
grandpaul said:
I think I have a Red button tucked away somewhere. Not sure if they were a Triumph only thing...
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I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't a legal mandate at some point. For me the kill button is the one that when you push it the engine stops. :mrgreen:
 
Looking through the picture thread it seems to be a mix. Early bike didn't seem to get the red button, but it looks like the 850s did. Of course people weren't taking the photos to show off the handlebar switches. :mrgreen:
 
I think I have a Red button tucked away somewhere. Not sure if they were a Triumph only thing...
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The '73-'74 switches with the long blades had the red kill buttons.
 
Ron L said:
I think I have a Red button tucked away somewhere. Not sure if they were a Triumph only thing...
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The '73-'74 switches with the long blades had the red kill buttons.
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Are you stating emphatically that the short blades are pre-73?
 
All '71's had short blades and no red button. All '73-'74 had long blades and red buttons. Most '72's I have seen have short blades. I have seen a couple '72's with long blades, but they could have been replaced.
 
Ron L said:
All '71's had short blades and no red button. All '73-'74 had long blades and red buttons. Most '72's I have seen have short blades. I have seen a couple '72's with long blades, but they could have been replaced.
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And red buttons on 72s or not?
 
Red buttons on anything other than very late to last Mk2 or only Mk3 are very rare here, indicates no earlier than 1974. Britain and Australia got the same spec models. USA has different legislated details, and may be got fitted earlier with the 1st of new Lucas production. Kind of spoils the mystery fun when all the switch gear is black and unmarked, this really puzzles BMW and Jap riders!

Mick
 
ML said:
Kind of spoils the mystery fun when all the switch gear is black and unmarked, this really puzzles BMW and Jap riders!

Mick
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If the shifter on the opposite side doesn't get them, the unmarked kill switch will! Separates the men from the boys.
 
ML said:
Red buttons on anything other than very late to last Mk2 or only Mk3 are very rare here, indicates no earlier than 1974. Britain and Australia got the same spec models. USA has different legislated details, and may be got fitted earlier with the 1st of new Lucas production. Kind of spoils the mystery fun when all the switch gear is black and unmarked, this really puzzles BMW and Jap riders!

Mick
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Wish I hadn't mentioned it now :-) but to clarify I bought my MK 11 in Texas (with a red button)and shipped it back to the UK.
 
plj850 said:
ML said:
Red buttons on anything other than very late to last Mk2 or only Mk3 are very rare here, indicates no earlier than 1974. Britain and Australia got the same spec models. USA has different legislated details, and may be got fitted earlier with the 1st of new Lucas production. Kind of spoils the mystery fun when all the switch gear is black and unmarked, this really puzzles BMW and Jap riders!

Mick
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Wish I hadn't mentioned it now :-) but to clarify I bought my MK 11 in Texas (with a red button)and shipped it back to the UK.
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Early or late MkII?
 
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