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Biscuit, I have reread your post and you state that "none of what you have said defines a left or right follower" in the following post you state that you know that there is a right and a left follower defined by the chamfer etc.

The point I am trying to make is that the fact that they are sold in pairs and probably machined as pairs is almost immaterial. My experience of matching unknown lifters from a box of assorted lifters to used barrels bought on the internet is that it doesn't much matter whether the lifters are mated pairs or not, but it is important that you have a right and a left lifter and that they are fitted in the correct orientation and that they slide up and down nicely in the lifter tunnels.

I am simply trying to answer the original question posted here and that is, whether the original lifters go back in their original bore, or not is for all practical purposes immaterial from the point of view of their linear movement in the lifter bore, the critical point is that worn lifters - ie lifters that are not necessarily worn out but that have been run for a sufficient time to bed into the cam lobe above which they sit - should NOT be put back over a different cam lobe or else premature wear of the lifter, the cam lobe or both is somewhat likely. If you have lost the correct orientation of the original lifters (which is the case in question here) or if you are using a set of unknown used lifters, or are fitting a new camshaft with existing lifters, then it is good practice to surface grind the face of the lifters, thus giving a fresh surface for re-bedding in. There is no need to do anything else to them or to purchase a brand new set of lifters, which are rather expensive.
 
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I replaced the followers and then afterwards read that they are machined pairs and cannot be mixed. I don't think mine are but they have been moved so many times over the last few weeks it could be possible. The question is IF they got swapped what is the consequence? Is it worth dropping $400 for a new set just to be sure?





Answers have mostly been addressing any consequences of switching followers in relation to cam lobe. The statement in the manual is in regard to the followers themselves sliding against different partners and in different bores. Since the right follower is the right follower and left is left for either cylinder you have a 25% chance of getting it right on guess alone and like others have mentioned witness marks may give you a clue. When I worked on these bikes in the past, often I'd get a box o' parts with a frame. Pair the follower to each other in a manner that allows them to slide nicely with each other and you'll be good unless of course the stellite tips are obviously bad which is a whole other issue.I certainly would not spend $400 unless I had money dropping out of my a...

Dave,This is my first post to the OP's query, It is essentially what the both of us have been saying the whole time. And for the record I too get the stellite pad re-surfaced if going up against a new cam lobe. Now, lets have a beer! :lol: Pete
 
Only place I could find that could do Norton lifter faces was comnoz so is there something about them putting regualar auto machine shops off.
 
Pete, it is a great skill to ba able to argue with someone who agrees with you, perhaps we were masters of rhetoric in ancient Greece in a past life. Hopefully our discussion has shone a light on this issue so that others don't feel obliged to buy new lifters every time they drop them on the floor and don't know where they go back!

Hobot, I dont think it is a particularly difficult grinding process but it is best if they are all ground at the same time and to the same depth. Here in Hong Kong it costs me about US$50 for a set.
 
There is a gentleman I go to for this work who charges the same, $50.00, He told me the stellite tends to smear unless the stones are brand new.
 
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