Fastback sidecovers

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gripper said:
The thing that has always stumped me is the fitting at the forward end of the rear mudguard (fender) The parts list shows a square plate with three bolts and spacers, that drop down from the frame cross member, but the early frame has no holes in the cross member to suit the plate. This must be for the 71 onwards i guess. What went before?


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Well I'll be damned, I've never seen a bracket like that and everything becomes clear. Thanks Les
 
gripper said:
Well I'll be damned, I've never seen a bracket like that and everything becomes clear.

Perhaps not that clear, as that bracket appears to have been introduced on the 'S' type, and there's no bracket listed in the '68-'70 parts book for the Fastback so perhaps the early Fastbacks didn't have a bracket unless it was the one in DogT's photo?
 
88chips said:
I have two right hand side covers for an early Fastback .
One has 2 hanger loops only the other has the 2 loops also 3 other brackets,
battery brackets I have been told .
Is there a difference between 1968 and 1969 covers .
Cheers Steve

If you look at the Parts Supplement for the '69 Fastback, listed directly below the accessory cover transfer part number is a "tool securing band". Perhaps the mystery of the different '69 part number also explains the side cover you describe with "3 other brackets"? Although I have never seen one, the '69 cover may have had tool roll secured to the inside by some sort of rubber band? All of the early Fastback sidecovers I have or have seen have no brackets other than the mounting loops. Perhaps the tool roll panel was short lived for some reason, as otherwise there would be more of them than plain ones, since it would have been used for the '69 and '70 models.

Some pictures of your two side covers would really be helpful.
 
Just for reference, I've never seen that strap between the top shocks for the 'S' type rear mudguard on any other bike than mine. All the one's I've seen have all been later dates than mine (Apr 69) and have the mounting bracket off the web and the mudguard has a different shape and different holes to it like my pictures in the rear mudguard thread. I know this has nothing to do with F/B panels, but I just had to say it and I don't doubt that mine was that way from the factory, it all fit together just fine including the holes for the guard. Also the part numbers for that strap and rear guard seem to be non existent for mine. That strap also makes for hard mounting of the dog leg bracket for the 'S' pipes with that special 'stud' that mounts the shock tops and the seat knob. If anyone has seen that strap and mudguard like mine, I'd like to know about it but it's probably before Apr 69.

Also, I think the original F/B (first Commando) had a completely different arrangement for the mounting of the rear fairing and guard which is pretty much listed in the 68 Spares List. Not sure about the later F/B, I guess that's in the supplement.

I think the F/B is the best looking of all the Commandos, but I like the ones with the peashooters best instead of the 68 cigars.
 
Ron L said:
88chips said:
I have two right hand side covers for an early Fastback .
One has 2 hanger loops only the other has the 2 loops also 3 other brackets,
battery brackets I have been told .
Is there a difference between 1968 and 1969 covers .
Cheers Steve

If you look at the Parts Supplement for the '69 Fastback, listed directly below the accessory cover transfer part number is a "tool securing band". Perhaps the mystery of the different '69 part number also explains the side cover you describe with "3 other brackets"? Although I have never seen one, the '69 cover may have had tool roll secured to the inside by some sort of rubber band?

The "061175" accessory cover and "060948 Tool securing band" are listed in the 750 'R' supplement, not for the '69 Fastback.

As the 'R' type didn't have the Fastback tail section with the usual tool storage compartment, then the tools would have had to be stowed elsewhere, so although outwardly similar, it would seem the different part number R accessory cover probably had hooks for the tool securing band.
Fastback sidecovers
 
L.A.B. said:
Ron L said:
As the 'R' type didn't have the Fastback tail section with the usual tool storage compartment, then the tools would have had to be stowed elsewhere, so although outwardly similar, it would seem the different part number R accessory cover probably had hooks for the tool securing band.

That would make sense - I have 2 original steel sidepanels, both are plain on the inside. Did any 'R' type bikes stay in the UK?

It also seems to be the case that the Fastback didn't have the spine-level mudguard stay either. This photo came from a '68 road test:

Fastback sidecovers
 
gripper said:
My Fastback, built sept 1970 but registered in early 71 has a steel LH side cover and oil tank to match on the RHS
+1 but ...
i have a stock 1970 red fastback (not the black one) with left large steel oil tank like 68/69 but the left side cover is fiberglass with hanger and not rotorlock.
I think that all the steel left side cover have the roorlock.
Ciao
Piero
 
Wallyb said:
my 70 fastback definitely has a metal LH side cover with that silly rotolock thing (which is not existent) but I have a releasable plastic cable tie

Fastback sidecovers
I think this bike is a late 69.
Ciao
Piero
 
gripper said:
Well I'll be damned, I've never seen a bracket like that and everything becomes clear. Thanks Les

I bought two of this early rare brackets from NOC Shop, i think they have others.
Ciao
Piero
 
L.A.B. said:
gripper said:
Well I'll be damned, I've never seen a bracket like that and everything becomes clear.

Perhaps not that clear, as that bracket appears to have been introduced on the 'S' type, and there's no bracket listed in the '68-'70 parts book for the Fastback so perhaps the early Fastbacks didn't have a bracket unless it was the one in DogT's photo?
+1.
You can find this bracket on 1969 S and on 1970 roadster, not found on the Fastback 68/70 but his frame 68/70 has the lateral holes for this bracket!
Ciao
Piero
 
pierodn said:
Wallyb said:
my 70 fastback definitely has a metal LH side cover with that silly rotolock thing (which is not existent) but I have a releasable plastic cable tie

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I think this bike is a late 69.
Ciao
Piero

L.A.B. said:
The Fastback MkII (with peashooter exhaust system) was introduced in September 1970, at serial 139571 -but was a relatively short-lived model only lasting until January 1971 (141717 last Fastback MkII, - Bacon).

My bike falls between those two numbers - definately 1970

I uploaded some pictures of the side cover , rotolock "socket" and the rear guard view...

http://s358.photobucket.com/user/wally750/library/

Cheers

Wally
 
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