Bad news from the stars

swooshdave · Apr 14, 2016

Wha the hell is the blue stuff?

splatt · Apr 14, 2016

swooshdave said:
Wha the hell is the blue stuff?[/quote

HYLOMAR

kommando · Apr 14, 2016

Blue Hylomar possibly, that's why its best to use anaerobic gasket goo, when it oozes out of joints it stays as a liquid and mixes with the oil and is gone completely in the first oil change. It only sets in the absence of air and seals well.

NKN · Apr 14, 2016

N0rt0nelectr@ said:
The point of my story is that you can't always know what is going on and taking the time to give it a good looking over would be best.

John in Texas

You're damn right :roll:

grandpaul · Apr 14, 2016

swooshdave said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UGZ2F1Q?psc=1

For $23 do you really have an excuse not to look at the insides?

I saw those talked about some months ago and bought one.

Doesn't work with my iphone, so I gave it to a friend to try it on his Android phone.

I got a cheap ($35) tablet now, so I'm having a go with it maybe this weekend.

...yeah, for the free colonoscopy!

mschmitz57 · Apr 14, 2016

Yeah, All that blue Hylomar on the sump filter is a bad sign.
Whoever did the rebuild is a rookie, which could explain the odd nut sitting in the sump.
Just sayin'

MS850 · Apr 14, 2016

Brithit said:
This thread reminds me of a book by Hughie Hancox, a noted Triumph restorer, and former factory man. Triumph ran a service, where you could ride your bike in, and they would rebuild the top end during business hours, and have it for you at the end of day. One of the favorite pranks they played on new mechanics was to toss a wrist pin clip under a bike prior to start up, knowing whoever worked on it would spot it. Mean bastards, I'll say that for them! Of course, I've been involved in squirting some fresh oil under a friend's recently re-built Indian Chief in a bike shop parking lot, but we fessed up right away. He was the type to go home and tear it apart at once!

Sounds like a shop I worked at, we wouldn't let the practical jokes go to far. It actually was a real fun place to work.

swooshdave · Apr 14, 2016

grandpaul said:
swooshdave said:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UGZ2F1Q?psc=1

For $23 do you really have an excuse not to look at the insides?

Click to expand...

I saw those talked about some months ago and bought one.

Doesn't work with my iphone, so I gave it to a friend to try it on his Android phone.

I got a cheap ($35) tablet now, so I'm having a go with it maybe this weekend.

...yeah, for the free colonoscopy!

That's exactly what I was thinking. A cheap tablet and one of these camera has a higher resolution and is actually cheaper than most, if not all alternatives.

concours · Apr 15, 2016

That's not Hylomar, it's blue RTV. Sad to think a "pro" did that... :roll:

Rohan · Apr 15, 2016

Just to explain, that blue stuff is big enough to block off oilways and starve things of oil.
Time for a rebuild, to make sure its ALL removed.
Be thankful you caught it in time.....

B+Bogus · Apr 16, 2016

I'll be the first to answer the easy question

:

Mag sump plug available from A-N - you'll need both the plug 064188 and the body 067249

http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton Website/norton/price-list.php?criteria=sump&Submit=Search

Also available as a complete assembly from RGM in stainless steel

http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/magnetic-sump-plug-complete-large_1198.htm

As to the other question... I'd never be sure until I'd lifted the barrels, which is only a half-day's work.
I'd need to be sure before I swing the kickstart again :cry:

Danno · Apr 16, 2016

Just stick a rare-earth magnet to the sump plug/strainer.

Madnorton · Apr 16, 2016

B+Bogus said:
I'll be the first to answer the easy question :

Mag sump plug available from A-N - you'll need both the plug 064188 and the body 067249

http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton Website/norton/price-list.php?criteria=sump&Submit=Search

Also available as a complete assembly from RGM in stainless steel

http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/magnetic-sump-plug-complete-large_1198.htm

As to the other question... I'd never be sure until I'd lifted the barrels, which is only a half-day's work.
I'd need to be sure before I swing the kickstart again :cry:

The assy is available from AN - you don't need to buy two parts - try the AN website, not the Norton motors website.

NKN · Apr 16, 2016

B+Bogus said:
I'll be the first to answer the easy question :

Mag sump plug available from A-N - you'll need both the plug 064188 and the body 067249

As to the other question... I'd never be sure until I'd lifted the barrels, which is only a half-day's work.
I'd need to be sure before I swing the kickstart again :cry:

Danno said:
Just stick a rare-earth magnet to the sump plug/strainer.

Madnorton said:
The assy is available from AN - you don't need to buy two parts - try the AN website, not the Norton motors website.

OK, thanks for your answers :wink:

N0rt0nelectr@ · Apr 17, 2016

B+Bogus said:
I'll be the first to answer the easy question :

Mag sump plug available from A-N - you'll need both the plug 064188 and the body 067249

http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton Website/norton/price-list.php?criteria=sump&Submit=Search

Also available as a complete assembly from RGM in stainless steel

http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/magnetic-sump-plug-complete-large_1198.htm

As to the other question... I'd never be sure until I'd lifted the barrels, which is only a half-day's work.
I'd need to be sure before I swing the kickstart again :cry:

I put a refrigerator magnet into the sump filter held in place by the wire mesh and the washer and retaining wire. Cheap and works well.
John in Texas

NKN · May 20, 2016

The show must go on...

I receive an USB endoscope from fulllove365 on our favorite shopping mall for less than 5$, shipping free.

First of all, you don't have to RTFM too much because everything is here:

Quite easy to install on your computer with a mini disc.

And then, first try in the tank

Quite a good image quality for this unbeatable price product.

After that, let's have a look inside the engine. And there,if you never had one engine, or several, opened by yourself, you don't really know what you're looking at.

At least, this should be a rod nut, no ?

SteveBorland said:
I think this is a sign from the Norton Gods, saying that it's time to get intimately acquainted with the inside of a Commando engine

So next step will be that, it looks like it's time for me to get intimately acquainted with the inside of a Commando engine.

Here, in my metric country, I'll need to buy the right tools to do the job. Can anybody tell me which ones I'm going to need to bring the engine down and strip it to the bone.

L.A.B. · May 20, 2016

NKN said:
Here, in my metric country, I'll need to buy the right tools to do the job. Can anybody tell me which ones I'm going to need to bring the engine down and strip it to the bone.

To get a really good look inside the engine it should only be necessary to remove the cylinder head and barrels.

DogT · May 20, 2016

At least get a 1/4 WW socket and maybe even a combination spanner. You'll probably need to grind the tools some too. The hard one is going to be the one from the head that goes down in the front of the cylinder. I've used 14mm, but it's pretty sketchy. Hemmings has nice ones. Get a 3/8 drive socket.

L.A.B. · May 20, 2016

Also, for removal of the (850) cylinder head and barrels:

Exhaust nut spanner.
9/16" AF - 850 front cylinder base nut.
7/16" AF - Various, other 850 base nuts and possibly also the front head stud sleeve nuts (7 & 8 ) if they are not 1/4W etc..
1/2" AF - Various, head steady plates etc..

Allen key/socket set up to about 3/8" (not all sizes are required for head/barrels but will be useful for other jobs)

3/16W and 5/16W spanners are often useful.

NKN · May 21, 2016

OK, thanks for that. I'll keep on posting pictures.

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