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VIN plates are readily available from outfits like DomiRacer and others as are the drive rivets. There are OEM and Chinese repro plates, but the only things that count, legally speaking, are if the VIN is authentic and not on a stolen vehicle list. Checking the number against a stolen list is due diligence without a clear title.
 
I think I'll wait until next Wednesday. Something tells me the price will be softening up about then.
 
Diablouph said:
I think I'll wait until next Wednesday. Something tells me the price will be softening up about then.
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lmao..

If worst comes to worst, I know where I can line up a titled frame that will allow me to move everything over. I hope it doesn't come to that, but at least it's there if I should need it.

One way or another, this should work out..

-Jordan
 
Oh man this reminds me of when my bike showed up after being restored...

Freaked myself out when I realized the bikes last registration (Texas, 1977, friend's brother of the guy I bought it from) matched the frame number (850F129xxx) and not the engine number. The frame had been powdercoated in the restoration, and the numbers *barely* visible in the headstock.

Had a cop swing by to do the inspection... had the paperwork all ready to go and was all worked up about whether or not I'd just blown a lot of money on a bike I couldn't title. Cop barely glanced at the bike, asked if my paperwork was in order and whether it was stolen, signed it and took off again.

Cheers,

- HJ
 
Oh, man, horror, horror. Another title problem. I have had my bike titled in MD since 72 and have had it here in VA for at least 25 years and never paid the personal property taxes on it. Holy Cow, are they going to go after me for the taxes for all those years I haven't had it registered in VA. Maybe my brother had it stored in DE for all that time.

I doubt it. They will probably be glad to get it registered and I'll pay the registration fee. Luckily here in VA there is no inspection for an antique vehicle (over 25 years). I'm not sure I'll even put the VIN plate on it, I can't find someone with the alpha stamps, only numbers, but eventually I'll get it done.

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Dave
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I wouldn't worry unless you bought the bike from a certain Chicago parts/bike dealer. Numbers matching is really nothing unless your using the bike to show or like to brag about the little things in life in which case no one really cares anyway. Plate and title it and ride the crap out of it.
 
For the last time, if the VIN Plate matches the title you're done. There is no serial number on the frame. Sheesh. :roll:
 
Debby, I live in northeast Kansas. I'd rather live in manhattan. .
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All I have to say to that is it beats the hell out of northwestern Kansas, and that goes double for southwestern Kansas. Same goes for the eastern half of Colorado. No offense, Debby :)

There are some awesome places to ride where you live, Jordan. Be glad you don't live in a featureless wasteland. Even so, I will say going to the Flint Hills right near Manhattan in the spring or fall is breathtaking. Real honest-to-God tallgrass prairie stuff you won't find anywhere anymore 'cause they've plowed it all away, and even the offending field stubble, after they burn it off, makes the whole place green like an emerald. Very unique.
 
KSUWildcatFan said:
It's being inspected on Tuesday so we'll see..

Debby, I live in northeast Kansas. I'd rather live in manhattan. :)

we'll see how things pan out on Tuesday..

-Jordan
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I'm taking one in Tuesday too, probably. I'm also in NE KS, Lawrence to be exact.
 
swooshdave said:
For the last time, if the VIN Plate matches the title you're done. There is no serial number on the frame. Sheesh. :roll:
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Your frame may not have a serial number, but mine definitely does (although you have to use a bit of imagination to see it through the powdercoat!). And that is what the bike had been last titled to when I bought it...
 
Jordan did your dad ever live in California? Here they have very strict policy on vin plates. Even a box on the form to check if it looks as if the rivets have been removed. There was also two or three other things that were about the vin plate, Altered and I don't remember what the others were. But they sure inspect them very close here. But it sure had me sweating because I had purchased a new plate for mine and had it stamped by someone in England, Don't remember who it was. Norvil? But you had to send them your old one and then they returned it cut in half with a new stamped one. They also sent the same tap in rivets like the ones used years ago. I was sure to put the plate on first thing when the frame was finished with powdercoating so the rivets would not look so new by the time I finished the bike. They even gave me hell about rebuilding the clocks "You can't reset the mileage, even if the clocks don't work" they told me. But California has some really strict policies regarding these kind of things, Hopefully you won't have a hard time with yours like I did and things will go smooth. I really don't mean to scare you but maybe your dad knows something. :wink:
 
None of that is required in Florida - only if you're trying to replace a lost title.

When I titled mine, I just brought my out-of-state title to DMV with cash - they did the title transfer and issued me a plate in about 10 minutes. I paid the sales tax based on my purchase price(basket case), title fee, and registration fee - about $160


Clerk did say she thought $800 sounded like a lot of money for a 35-year-old bike!

Mine has a replaced VIN plate, but the PO included the original plate.
 
Thousands of those have been removed and reinstalled in repairs and rebuilding. My local CHP guy will make you get the paint off the frame in that area and go by those numbers, boy was that a pain on my Norton.
 
Cookie said:
Thousands of those have been removed and reinstalled in repairs and rebuilding. My local CHP guy will make you get the paint off the frame in that area and go by those numbers, boy was that a pain on my Norton.
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Only the pre-Commandos and those after 74 had numbers stamped into them, from what I understand. The vast majority of Commandos have riveted number tags.
 
grandpaul said:
Cookie said:
Thousands of those have been removed and reinstalled in repairs and rebuilding. My local CHP guy will make you get the paint off the frame in that area and go by those numbers, boy was that a pain on my Norton.
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Only the pre-Commandos and those after 74 had numbers stamped into them, from what I understand. The vast majority of Commandos have riveted number tags.
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My frame, as well as the two my dad has for reference, have what appear to be part numbers in those locations. None of the numbers even remotely match the VIN.

Fwiw, the tag on mine says it was manufactured late 1973. It's titled as a 1974 Commando 850.

-Jordan
 
I didn't realize just the late ones have stamped numbers, my featherbed also has stamped ones.
I do remeber the replacement framees had no numbers, at least the the couple I saw.
 
KSUWildcatFan said:
My frame, as well as the two my dad has for reference, have what appear to be part numbers in those locations. None of the numbers even remotely match the VIN.
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Did any of those frame numbers begin with "F1" like this: 850 F1xxxxx if so, then they are frame numbers and will be completely different to number on the plate?

The part number for a MkI frame would be 06-4140, and a MkII frame is 06-5404, and the frame part number was usually stamped on the front face of the left hand fuel tank bracket, and not on the headstock?



KSUWildcatFan said:
Fwiw, the tag on mine says it was manufactured late 1973. It's titled as a 1974 Commando 850.
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If the plate and engine number is higher than 307311 then it's almost certainly an 850 Mk2 or Mk2A so can be considered a '74 model.
 
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hi lab,hope im not hijacking this thread,but while were on frame numbers i have a question that i hope you can answer,i bought a frame couple of years ago #850#f1299xx# and 06-5632 on the tank mount,acording the atlanticgreen link you posted it puts this frame number in the feb 75 league,the 06-5632 number puts in the 75 mk3 e start league but there is no provision on the frame for the hinged mk3 seat? there is no vin plate on it but if there was would the frame number stamped on the frame match the vin plate or would the engine number be on the vin plate thx in advance
 
L.A.B. said:
KSUWildcatFan said:
My frame, as well as the two my dad has for reference, have what appear to be part numbers in those locations. None of the numbers even remotely match the VIN.
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Did any of those frame numbers begin with "F1" like this: 850 F1xxxxx if so, then they are frame numbers and will be completely different to number on the plate?

The part number for a MkI frame would be 06-4140, and a MkII frame is 06-5404, and the frame part number was usually stamped on the front face of the left hand fuel tank bracket, and not on the headstock?



KSUWildcatFan said:
Fwiw, the tag on mine says it was manufactured late 1973. It's titled as a 1974 Commando 850.
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If the plate and engine number is higher than 307311 then it's almost certainly an 850 Mk2 or Mk2A so can be considered a '74 model.
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00113 -- mine

dad's interstate -- 00119

My VIN is 305XXX.
 
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