Workshop manual download

Hi Simon - thanks very much for the manual as I paid 90GBP for one 4 years ago for my 961 Sport. I traded this in and now have a Euro4 Sport - the yellow one that was produced in the factory last August. I was wondering if you have a link for the Euro4 wiring diagram (latest manual has Euro3) as I wish to insert a switch to turn off the daylight running lights until the engine has started - if you have a weak battery and the lights are drawing current, the bike might not then start - Alan
 
regental said:
Hi Simon - thanks very much for the manual as I paid 90GBP for one 4 years ago for my 961 Sport. I traded this in and now have a Euro4 Sport - the yellow one that was produced in the factory last August. I was wondering if you have a link for the Euro4 wiring diagram (latest manual has Euro3) as I wish to insert a switch to turn off the daylight running lights until the engine has started - if you have a weak battery and the lights are drawing current, the bike might not then start - Alan
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Alan, I am thinking of doing the same.

By strange coincidence, I fitted exactly the same switch that Norton use on the 961 to my 1974 Cdo. But, it has a functioning light switch.

My plan is to change the switch unit completely. I haven’t looked at the wiring in the headlamp shell yet, but don’t think it can be too complex.

The switch clusters are available here:

http://www.discovolantemoto.co.uk/handlebar-switch-left-hand-2183-p.asp
 
If you prise up the light switch toggle and remove the bit of plastic that keeps it on all the time, the switch can be returned to the off position but the lights remain on. The main beam will not work with the switch in the off position. I can obviously intercept the dipped beam wire but that leaves the pilot, intrument and rear lights on. I've looked into the shell to try & decipher the wires but all the colours have changed from the previous diagram - might have to get the mutimter out.
 
regental said:
Hi Simon - thanks very much for the manual as I paid 90GBP for one 4 years ago for my 961 Sport. I traded this in and now have a Euro4 Sport - the yellow one that was produced in the factory last August. I was wondering if you have a link for the Euro4 wiring diagram (latest manual has Euro3) as I wish to insert a switch to turn off the daylight running lights until the engine has started - if you have a weak battery and the lights are drawing current, the bike might not then start - Alan
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Not sure if they are ALL like this but in the head light bucket is a jumper connector. Just remove it and the lights will turn off with the switch. Sorry, no photos but you’ll figure it out once you have the bucket open. I have a manual for removing the head light if needed.

Good luck.
 
Simon,
Thank you very much for the manual. I've color copied it and will have it leather hardbound as I did with the earlier version I bought a few years back. I truly cherish my 2014 961SF. I've even kept the original crate used to ship it to the the USA. I know you folks are working at a factory, spitting out motorcycles, but I'd just like to tell you how much those motorcycles are loved and appreciated. The people building these machines can take pride in their work.
Thanks, Charlie
 
richard-7 said:
Not sure if they are ALL like this but in the head light bucket is a jumper connector. Just remove it and the lights will turn off with the switch. Sorry, no photos but you’ll figure it out once you have the bucket open. I have a manual for removing the head light if needed.

Good luck.
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Hi Richard - thanks for all your work on the manuals and other input into this forum - I certainly enjoy your comments and practical advice - the Euro4 models are a lot different now as there is one big 9-pin connector in the headlight shell - they have run a supply wire from somewhere (when the ignition is turned on) to power the dipped beam, instrument lights and tail light - this overrides the lh light switch
 
regental said:
Hi Richard - thanks for all your work on the manuals and other input into this forum - I certainly enjoy your comments and practical advice - the Euro4 models are a lot different now as there is one big 9-pin connector in the headlight shell - they have run a supply wire from somewhere (when the ignition is turned on) to power the dipped beam, instrument lights and tail light - this overrides the lh light switch
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See my post “headlight override hack”
 
Is it just me or has this link been removed?

If so, would someone who had the sense to download a copy please pm me....?
 
I’m sorted, thanks MxMartin.

I’m still a little perplexed by the factories secrecy though.

Why post the manuals then take them down?

Why take £90 from customers and yet provide an out of date manual?

How is an owner of a new bike supposed to actually get a manual?

Why is it so difficult ...?
 
skinthespin said:
Hi,

We haven't taken it down, I think it times out. bear with me and I will get some to re-upload the link.

Thanks

Simon
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Thanks Simon.

And actually, I think you’re right about the ‘time out’ thing because it has since happened to me with something else.

Sorry for the implied accusation sir!
 
The euro 4 bikes no longer have the bridge inside the headlight to deactivate the lights - it used to be placed in as at the time it was a legal requirement in some territories but not all, so we would pull them out or leave them in dependent where they were going.

Euro 4 it is compulsory so it was deleted.

However, as far as I am aware, ALL bikes have a crank time/lights off relay, so unless you are switching on your ignition and not starting the bike for some time, this should suffice.
 
Rob Jameson - Norton UK said:
The euro 4 bikes no longer have the bridge inside the headlight to deactivate the lights - it used to be placed in as at the time it was a legal requirement in some territories but not all, so we would pull them out or leave them in dependent where they were going.

Euro 4 it is compulsory so it was deleted.

However, as far as I am aware, ALL bikes have a crank time/lights off relay, so unless you are switching on your ignition and not starting the bike for some time, this should suffice.
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Thanks for that Rob - I will look carefully when I next start the bike to see if the headlight goes out - Alan
 

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