Winter Projects For Your Commando?

Hoping to get the motor finished and in, and then electrics run. Then everything tightened up and fluids filled. Just praying to get a good run of days off to make the progress. Painful to have all the pieces finished and ready to go, and not have the time to assemble.

Winter Projects For Your Commando?
 
I started stripping down my bike in the vestibule of my house yesterday. :( I decided to inspect the valve gaps, and pull the sump plug to inspect the screen for any metal shavings before pulling the head and barrels off... The valve gaps were still perfect, and the screen was totally clean. I inspected and strained the oil and it was clean with zero metallic looks to it... I concluded that the cam and followers are probably fine or I would have had some changes to the valve gaps. Also having no debris in the sump plug screen leads me to believe that nothing inside the crankcase is grinding towards it's failure, so I am leaving the crankcase alone at this point.... The oil had no metallic look to it whatsoever so I'm going to buy a new transmission filter (fitted as an oil filter on the oil return line) and open up the old one to see if there's any tell tale metalic particulate matter in there. Mostly, I've concluded that my weird occasional noise at idle is something other than the crankcase.

It turns out that I am going to inspect the primary case for the weird sound as was suggested. It's definitely the easiest thing to troubleshoot if the noise is coming from in there...

I'm trying to order a new timing chain from Jason the chain man... Holy shit what a pain in the ass to phone the UK from the USA... I ordered the late model rubberized timing chain tensioner from AN. My commando has the original metal one and the original timing chain too. I figure that 30,000 miles is enough mileage for the original. Maybe a new one will tighten up the strobe light response a bit which couldn't hurt. I'm wondering a little bit about the rubberized tensioner and if there's a technique to setting it that doesn't include readjusting it after a bit of break in...

I did this weird modification to my carbs which I copied from that aussie guy who doesn't post here any more. The modification holds my carb bowls in place with a long perforated drain plug cylinder that grabs onto the bottom of the jet holder (which I threaded on the lathe) I like it a lot, because the bowl doesn't warp from over tightening the ears or leak because of the even pressure on the bowl. I am going to put new jets, needles, new float needles, and clean out the idle circuits in my carbs, so they will be set up for the first nice days to come.

I'm also trying new spark plugs Denso W22TT which are iridium tipped and have a platinum coated ground electrode...

I'm changing a bunch of things at the same time, so chaos should ensue, unless I just happen to get every single thing correctly installed and adjusted,.... but what are the chances of that...😏
 
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I started stripping down my bike in the vestibule of my house yesterday. :( I decided to inspect the valve gaps, and pull the sump plug to inspect the screen for any metal shavings before pulling the head and barrels off... The valve gaps were still perfect, and the screen was totally clean. I inspected and strained the oil and it was clean with zero metallic looks to it... I concluded that the cam and followers are probably fine or I would have had some changes to the valve gaps. Also having no debris in the sump plug screen leads me to believe that nothing inside the crankcase is grinding towards it's failure, so I am leaving the crankcase alone at this point.... The oil had no metallic look to it whatsoever so I'm going to buy a new transmission filter (fitted as an oil filter on the oil return line) and open up the old one to see if there's any tell tale metalic particulate matter in there. Mostly, I've concluded that my weird occasional noise at idle is something other than the crankcase.

It turns out that I am going to inspect the primary case for the weird sound as was suggested. It's definitely the easiest thing to troubleshoot if the noise is coming from in there...

I'm trying to order a new timing chain from Jason the chain man... Holy shit what a pain in the ass to phone the UK from the USA... I ordered the late model rubberized timing chain tensioner from AN. My commando has the original metal one and the original timing chain too. I figure that 30,000 miles is enough mileage for the original. Maybe a new one will tighten up the strobe light response a bit which couldn't hurt. I'm wondering a little bit about the rubberized tensioner and if there's a technique to setting it that doesn't include readjusting it after a bit of break in...

I did this weird modification to my carbs which I copied from that aussie guy who doesn't post here any more. The modification holds my carb bowls in place with a long perforated drain plug cylinder that grabs onto the bottom of the jet holder (which I threaded on the lathe) I like it a lot, because the bowl doesn't warp from over tightening the ears or leak because of the even pressure on the bowl. I am going to put new jets, needles, new float needles, and clean out the idle circuits in my carbs, so they will be set up for the first nice days to come.

I'm also trying new spark plugs Denso W22TT which are iridium tipped and have a platinum coated ground electrode...

I'm changing a bunch of things at the same time, so chaos should ensue, unless I just happen to get every single thing correctly installed and adjusted,.... but what are the chances of that...😏
The custom drain plug idea you describe is a good one for another reason. I've lost a few drain plugs on the road. They have a tendency to loosen and fall out and it's hard to keep them tight with those fiber washers.
 
In my younger days back in the 70s, my front middle stud had stripped in the crank case, being young and silly I Aridided the stud in and kept riding it, but after that when my Norton was idling it made a rattling noise but went away when the throttle was opened, this was like this for a few years, bad rattle when idling but ok when riding but in 1980 I started the conversion to the Featherbed frame and major engine rebuild for the Featherbed, pulled the head and barrels off and behold found out what was causing the idle rattle, where the stud had screwed into the front middle of the crank case 1/2 the stud hole and crank case had broken off and was rolling around on top of the crank, it was big enough to not be able to drop down the side of the barrels and when the motor was revving it flowed in between the bottom of the cylinders, no more rattle, it was like that for 2 years and the broken piece was like a polish stone when I found it, I still have that broken piece somewhere in my bits and pieces and after the rebuild I still glued that front stud in, I replaced the crank cases just over 15 years ago now.
Back in 1980 my Norton motor was the first ever rebuild of any bikes I owned, I was in my early 20s then and from new 850 Commando at 17 years old to that day my Norton copped a flogging, with lots of Friday night burnout and all, yes young and silly after 4/5 years of flogging my bores were worn oval so a complete rebore was needed, never did a burnout since, lesson learned lol.

Ashley
 
I started stripping down my bike in the vestibule of my house yesterday. :( I decided to inspect the valve gaps, and pull the sump plug to inspect the screen for any metal shavings before pulling the head and barrels off... The valve gaps were still perfect, and the screen was totally clean. I inspected and strained the oil and it was clean with zero metallic looks to it... I concluded that the cam and followers are probably fine or I would have had some changes to the valve gaps. Also having no debris in the sump plug screen leads me to believe that nothing inside the crankcase is grinding towards it's failure, so I am leaving the crankcase alone at this point.... The oil had no metallic look to it whatsoever so I'm going to buy a new transmission filter (fitted as an oil filter on the oil return line) and open up the old one to see if there's any tell tale metalic particulate matter in there. Mostly, I've concluded that my weird occasional noise at idle is something other than the crankcase.

It turns out that I am going to inspect the primary case for the weird sound as was suggested. It's definitely the easiest thing to troubleshoot if the noise is coming from in there...

I'm trying to order a new timing chain from Jason the chain man... Holy shit what a pain in the ass to phone the UK from the USA... I ordered the late model rubberized timing chain tensioner from AN. My commando has the original metal one and the original timing chain too. I figure that 30,000 miles is enough mileage for the original. Maybe a new one will tighten up the strobe light response a bit which couldn't hurt. I'm wondering a little bit about the rubberized tensioner and if there's a technique to setting it that doesn't include readjusting it after a bit of break in...

I did this weird modification to my carbs which I copied from that aussie guy who doesn't post here any more. The modification holds my carb bowls in place with a long perforated drain plug cylinder that grabs onto the bottom of the jet holder (which I threaded on the lathe) I like it a lot, because the bowl doesn't warp from over tightening the ears or leak because of the even pressure on the bowl. I am going to put new jets, needles, new float needles, and clean out the idle circuits in my carbs, so they will be set up for the first nice days to come.

I'm also trying new spark plugs Denso W22TT which are iridium tipped and have a platinum coated ground electrode...

I'm changing a bunch of things at the same time, so chaos should ensue, unless I just happen to get every single thing correctly installed and adjusted,.... but what are the chances of that...😏
Valve clearances are not really a good indicator of cam condition, cams wear on the lobes usually and not the base circle.
 
Valve clearances are not really a good indicator of cam condition, cams wear on the lobes usually and not the base circle.
Thanks for that comment Nigel. That means that I am relying on only the lack of metal in my oil and filters as proof that my cam and lifters are good... I have to rethink my plan.. 😞
 
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