Who sells the best round plastic Wideline Badges?

jimbo · Sep 10, 2014

Who sells the best round plastic Wideline Badges? Reproduction or oem? Are they the same as Pll's?

jimbo · Sep 22, 2014

is anybody happy with the badges they bought? :|

Rohan · Sep 22, 2014

I'm deliriously happy with mine.

No idea if they are oem or new though.
How do you tell ?

ntst8 · Sep 22, 2014

The modern wideline ones are supposed to be a slightly larger diameter than the originals - so wont be a good fit in original chrome side panels. (wideline ES2 in my case)
Just measured mine (repops) at approx 81.5mm dia (hope i was reading that correctly, someone has hidden my specs...)

BillT · Sep 22, 2014

The 'N' badges are correct for those P11s that came with them, as are the late '=M=' badges (around 600 P11 and P11As were sold as Matchless).

G15CS/P11A advertisement:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tqsvl9o2...ements/Matchless_G15_and_P11_leaflet.pdf?dl=0

Though labeled as 1968 models, both bikes in this ad are actually 1967 machines, as evidenced by the 1967 tail light brackets, and the high pipes and solo seat on the P11A (actually a P11)

jimbo · Sep 23, 2014

I thought the last Widelines were made in 1959?

ntst8 said:
The modern wideline ones are supposed to be a slightly larger diameter than the originals - so wont be a good fit in original chrome side panels. (wideline ES2 in my case)
Just measured mine (repops) at approx 81.5mm dia (hope i was reading that correctly, someone has hidden my specs...)

ntst8 · Sep 23, 2014

The ES2 was wideline for '59 and '60, went slimline for '61, '62 and was then dropped.
The twins changed earlier, perhaps they used up the leftover frames on the singles?
Mine is NOC dated as 1960, one of 69 bikes sold with sidecar as Royal Automobile Club roadside service vehicles, but in solo civilian trim now.

Rohan · Sep 23, 2014

jimbo said:
.............. round plastic Wideline Badges?
Are they the same as Pll's?

Perhaps we need an answer to that.
Are the badges as fitted to the widelines, and to the 1950s swingarm frame tanks
the same as for the P11 etc ??

Was there a break in production of them (badges),
or they were just carried on into the 1960s on the hybrids....

jimbo · Sep 23, 2014

Yes, I agree!

With my experience with
the Fastback Norton/Villers badges all the reproductions are pretty poor in one way or another.

Rohan said:
jimbo said:

.............. round plastic Wideline Badges?
Are they the same as Pll's?

Click to expand...

Perhaps we need an answer to that.
Are the badges as fitted to the widelines, and to the 1950s swingarm frame tanks
the same as for the P11 etc ??

Was there a break in production of them (badges),
or they were just carried on into the 1960s on the hybrids....

jimbo · Oct 14, 2014

here's a search with repops and one original, it seems the repops from the UK are a pretty good quality

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Motorcycle-Part ... _PrefLoc=2