Guys, guys, guys. I worked in sales and hence I'm incapable of lying. These are NOT your everyday common run of the mill pop rivets. These two boxes were shipped from TEXAS! Now if that doesn't mean anything in todays world, then I guess that we are all doomed. Mediocrity will become the goal that we strive to achieve. "No, don't buy that Aston Martin DBS Superleggera, this nice beige Toyota Prius will get the job just as well."