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Tire Balancing

So here’s the tire story. I take the wheel to the Triumph dealer. They get the tire off and call me. Rim is pretty rusty. Alright, not unexpected. It’s old. I take the rim home, sand all the rust down and put some rust converter on it. It’s looking pretty good. I’ll replace the rim at some point just not now. Take it back. Get another call. Still can’t get the bead to pop. Put 80 lbs of air in. Now I’m thinking what's wrong. I go pick up the wheel and tire. There’s a gap in one area. I put some dish soap on and put 15 lbs in and is seats perfectly. Damn kids didn’t use enough lube.

Tire Balancing


Tire Balancing


So I didn't use Dynabeads and ended up putting 3/4 oz of weights on. But it's statically balanced. Some people say not to both with the rear wheel.

My assumption is that it can't hurt. Thoughts?
 
Both wheels should be balanced in my opinion
I use a bit of baby talk to get the tyre to seat
 
I dabble a bit with the back just not as much as the front because I like them pretty smooth..... There's enough bumps in the roads as it is. Weights don't take long if you've an assortment about. I just finished doing both on my wing a month or so ago.
 
I balance both wheels, except on dirt bikes. Even does it on the Norton WD16H. Not much work.
 
I always balance both wheel / tires and start by aligning yellow dot (lightest point on tire) with valve stem (using rim lock may change alignment point).

Using the source, path, receptor model in most cases it is best to eliminate a source of vibration from where it is generated.
 
swooshdave said:
So here’s the tire story. I take the wheel to the Triumph dealer. They get the tire off and call me. Rim is pretty rusty. Alright, not unexpected. It’s old. I take the rim home, sand all the rust down and put some rust converter on it. It’s looking pretty good. I’ll replace the rim at some point just not now. Take it back. Get another call. Still can’t get the bead to pop. Put 80 lbs of air in. Now I’m thinking what's wrong. I go pick up the wheel and tire. There’s a gap in one area. I put some dish soap on and put 15 lbs in and is seats perfectly. Damn kids didn’t use enough lube.





So I didn't use Dynabeads and ended up putting 3/4 oz of weights on. But it's statically balanced. Some people say not to both with the rear wheel.

My assumption is that it can't hurt. Thoughts?
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If you did a good job balancing the tire why would you want to do both?

With a good electronic balancer you can get within 1 gram, You can do the same with a static balancer with a little effort.


I would not use both.

Here is one reason, I went to the Dyna Bead website
Here is what I read:


"Motorcycles and Scooters ride s-m-o-o-t-h with Dyna Beads®!

You simply won't believe the ride...

  • Glass smooth ride, every time, all the time.
  • Dramatically longer tire life
  • No rebalancing
  • No spoke or rim weights
  • Eliminates tire cupping.
  • Easy to install
  • Your motorcycle dealer won't want to do it the old way once he's tried Dyna Beads!"

Dramatically longer tire life?? Maybe compared to an unbalanced tire. Fact check: Fail

Eliminates tire cupping? Maybe tire cupping can be caused by an unbalance tire. The Tire cupping I have seen is caused by braking loads, on the front tire, and acceleration loads, on the rear tire. Only tires with tread, it does not happen on slicks. Why because the tire rubber is pushed into the tire grooves under heavy loads, like braking and acceleration. Fact check: Fail
 
swooshdave said:
I may not have been clear, I was not going to do both. I just stated I did not use the beads and instead used the regular stick on weights.
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That is what I would do as well, Just balance the wheels with weights.


I would balance both the front and rear, I would do it using weights.
The front is more important than the rear. But both matter.
Out of balance can show up at 50 MPH
 
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I balance the front and rear with the weights that clamp on the spokes. I have never used any of the "inside-the tube" tire balancers"but several folks I ride with do and claim it works as advertised.
 
MexicoMike said:
I balance the front and rear with the weights that clamp on the spokes. I have never used any of the "inside-the tube" tire balancers"but several folks I ride with do and claim it works as advertised.
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Which clamps do you use?
 
“ Some people say not to both with the rear wheel.”

Those are the people that ride like mamby-pambies.
 
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balanced both - can't see any reason not to. new Dunlop's - ended up adding one ounce stick on's (each wheel) - 1/2 ounce on the rim flat - both sides of the spokes.
 
Always both wheels. Harbor Freight balance stand. Squirt WD40 or gasoline into the balancer’s bearings.

I wrap solder on spoked wheels and use stick on weights for mag wheel bikes. A piece of color matching duct tape ensures that the stick ons don’t fall off

Two or three times in the past, with auto tires, watching a slap dash guy electronically balance, after they removed wheel, I asked em to remount and double check. Never did repeat. Guy pulls off the weights that he just installed, re-balances, Removes, remounts, and it still would not repeat. Try it, You’ll piss em off.
 
I've been using this stuff for a few years now, both in tubeless and tube type. Silky smooth to warp factor 9 in the Sportbikes.
The self sealing feature is a bonus.
Glen

 
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