THE FUTURE LOOKS BRITE....NOT !!

Schwany said:
For my generation and the one before mine there really were good old days. The new days are looking kind of dull and boring.

I can see motor racing getting the boot across the board in the next 20 years. Pickle ball tournaments will be really popular though. :rolleyes:
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I often get called a cynical old git or sometimes just an old git (guilty on both counts)
But I often say that we had the best time and it's fading away fast
My girlfriend summed it up yesterday when she was following me on my BSA back to my place in her car when there was a kid about 18 or 19 going along the cycle track on an electric scooter
She said she wished she'd got a photo of it as it summed up the way it is now
At his age I had an A65 lightning and my first commando!!!
 
baz said:
I often get called a cynical old git or sometimes just an old git (guilty on both counts)
But I often say that we had the best time and it's fading away fast
My girlfriend summed it up yesterday when she was following me on my BSA back to my place in her car when there was a kid about 18 or 19 going along the cycle track on an electric scooter
She said she wished she'd got a photo of it as it summed up the way it is now
At his age I had an A65 lightning and my first commando!!!
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We both had Norton's at 19 and we didn't have "man buns"... :)
Thats the woke generation for ya
 

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Fuel tax at the pump usually goes for road maintenance.

So if all the people are charging their vehicles at home, where will the road maintenace tax revenue come from?
 
elefantrider said:
Fuel tax at the pump usually goes for road maintenance.

So if all the people are charging their vehicles at home, where will the road maintenace tax revenue come from?
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Increase the gas tax. I'd rather have economic incentives than mandated ones. Of course there will come a time when EVs outnumber ICEs. Then the tax structure will need to change. By then all roads will probably be privately owned and revenue will collected by electronic tolling.
 
In my USA state, the tax structure has already changed but not solely for road maintenance. The annual license tax now goes for such things as bridges to accommodate more cars, trains to accommodate more people to eliminate cars from the bridges, and such non-maintenance programs.

In my rural town, with a healthy dose of outdoor recreation, one now sees; push-bikes such as gravel bikes in favor of road bikes, fat bikes in favor of mountain bikes, and electric versions of both that at first glance are indistinguishable from ICE powered light dirt bikes. I still need more exercise than I get so I've kept my pedal-powered bike.

For sport, there's my ageing motorcycles. In the UK particularly and perhaps Euro zone too, the discussion seems to lump ICE-powered bikes in with cars, etc. as primarily transport items. As I recall from reading about the demise of the British motorcycle industry, it was the failure to recognize that motorcycles had become sporting goods rather than transport by 1960 or so when a fellow could afford a Mini to escort his girl rather than a sidecar outfit, that put a huge dent in "grey porrage" motorcycles. They did come round to the reality of bikes as sport but too late as the Japanese took the market. Will the powers that be make the same error in their current attempts to legislate their way out of impending doom? Motorcycles at 0.5% of carbon emission hardly seems a threat when compared with The Pentagon's war machine, for example.
 
elefantrider said:
Fuel tax at the pump usually goes for road maintenance.

So if all the people are charging their vehicles at home, where will the road maintenace tax revenue come from?
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In the UK we pay road tax which is separate from fuel tax
It's actually called the road fund license
How much actually goes on road maintenance I don't know
Electric cars don't pay this at the moment but I can't see that lasting as more more people switch to electric eventually they will have to start paying or there will be zero income to pay for road maintenance
I'd imagine electric cars are heavier than fossil burners and damage the roads more??
On top of this the are congestion charges to drive into London
And quite a few other cities in the UK by the end of this year
 

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