Mark Savage
VIP MEMBER
- Joined
- Apr 2, 2013
- Messages
- 755
I found it was cheaper to change my name by deed poll to "W384 YBM" than buy a personalised registration plate.
Registration Plate Question
- Thread starter olympus
- Start date
- Status
- Joined
- Dec 28, 2009
- Messages
- 5,468
Over here the plate would be stolen immediately and the vehicle too at that F1 price. Cheaper to bribe an official and take a risk . Ridiculous. My knowledge of The Brits is the deep seated love of bureaucracy and rules. A comment from the wild wild west.
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2004
- Messages
- 20,624
I don't think you understand. It isn't the plate that's worth the money it's the registration mark so a distinctive registration plate like F1 etc. would be of no real value to a thief.
I don't understand that. What risk?
The "wild wild" West appears to have the same or more bureaucracy than we "Brits" judging from comments elsewhere on this forum.
We don't have all that 'title' stuff for one thing.
Edit: Annual (or whatever?) trips to "the DMV office" (DVLA in UK) being another.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Dec 28, 2009
- Messages
- 5,468
O.K. starting to understand the big differences. Every year we have to purchase a road tax sticker and attach it to the upper right corner of the vehicle's plate. The plate stays with you if you ever sell the vehicle. "Title" would be called the Ownership. Very different .
Just for fun I had my Norton's "Ownership" voluntarily changed to Historic Vehicle status this season. Any vehicle over I think 40 years old qualifies , the benefit being the annual rod tax sticker being about half price. The nice lady at Service Ontario had never done it so asked her supervisor to find the form. We filled it out with surrendering the ownership temporarily with a photocopy for me to keep temporarily in case I got pulled over. A week later it returned in the mail with Historic Vehicle stamped in BIG brown letters so that it's now hard to read the original numbers and letters underneath.
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2004
- Messages
- 20,624
Our UK road tax used to be the paper disc that had to be displayed in the tax disc holder (motorcycle) or lower left-hand side of the windscreen (car etc.), however, it's all computerised now so there's no paper disc anymore or anything else that has to be displayed, stuck on or carried as the police/authorities can tell if a vehicle is taxed, insured, Mot'd and who the 'registered keeper' is from the registration mark.
With the UK system, the 'plate' (registration mark) normally stays with the vehicle unless it's one of the personalised registrations.
In the UK the taxation class of the vehicle isn't anything to with ownership.
Same in the UK now which requires a trip to the post office who check documents and send the old V5C registration document to the DVLA (Swansea) who then issue a new amended V5C to the named 'registered keeper' as the DVLA isn't concerned with ownership only who is legally responsible for the vehicle.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q743.htm
UK historic tax is free but it still has to be renewed annually which I agree is unnecessary bureaucracy but it only takes a couple of minutes to renew online!
There's no MoT (annual inspection) required on historic vehicles now so it's one level of bureaucracy that's been removed.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Dec 28, 2009
- Messages
- 5,468
Over here there is no annual inspection req'd. We used to have it for pollution purposes but now most people just buy new vehicles seeing as with all the road salt and ice a vehicle does not last long.
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2004
- Messages
- 20,624
Somebody must be buying and using the old ones as the average age of Canadian vehicles appears to be increasing.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/641410/age-of-motor-vehicles-in-canada/
"In 2016, the average age of motor vehicles on Canadian roads stood at 9.66 years."
The average age of UK cars in 2016 (cars are subject to a pollution test as part of the MoT) was 8.0 years.
https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/average-age-cars-great-britain
- Joined
- Dec 28, 2009
- Messages
- 5,468
Annual pollution control testing under our Gov'ts "Drive Clean" program was ended April 1 st 2019 after complaints by older vehicle owners ( presumed poorer..) that it hurt them with the testing cost and subsequent possible failure and repair costs . A failure meant no sticker for your plate. Any vehicle pre -1988 was exempt from testing as these vehicles were produced before manufacturers were legislated to produce vehicles with such controls. The new focus will be on trucks and heavy vehicles which also were exempt for many years under the old Drive Clean program.
- Status
Similar threads
